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boo boo 08-17-2008 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Minstrel (Post 507758)
Where you went wrong:

1. Bjork isn't Swedish
2. Racism is silly
3. Sexism is silly
4. Bjork isn't inaccessible; not liking something isn't the same as inaccessible

I'd call Medulla pretty inaccessible.

Minstrel 08-17-2008 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 507820)
I'd call Medulla pretty inaccessible.

Well, my fourth point was an opinion dressed up as a fact, just because. Of course, there's some empirical evidence in favour of my claim, which is that Bjork is considered pretty mainstream and is highly popular, neither of which support her being "inaccessible" as music goes.

boo boo 08-17-2008 07:27 PM

Yeah, but Frank Zappa was a big celebrity too. I certainly wouldn't call all his music accessible.

lucifer_sam 08-17-2008 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minstrel (Post 507758)
Where you went wrong:

1. Bjork isn't Swedish
2. Racism is silly
3. Sexism is silly
4. Bjork isn't inaccessible; not liking something isn't the same as inaccessible

Where you went wrong:

1) Sweden isn't a race, it's a nationality. If I were, I'd be xenophobic, not racist.
2) "bitches be crazy" isn't sexist.
3) "Swedish" isn't xenophobic.
4) And some of (admittedly not all) of her music is pretty fuckin' out there. So yeh, I consider her to be a little inaccessible.

So what, she's Icelandic, not Swedish. Bitches still be crazy.

Minstrel 08-17-2008 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 507860)
Where you went wrong:

1) Sweden isn't a race, it's a nationality. If I were, I'd be xenophobic, not racist.

"Race" has no specific definition and virtually any attempt to specify exactly what race is is doomed to failure. "Racism" colloquially refers quite broadly to applying qualities to groups based on nationality and ethnicity.

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2) "bitches be crazy" isn't sexist.
3) "Swedish" isn't xenophobic.
This is very, very weak. Singling Swedes out is racist. Among Swedes, singling females out (and calling them "bitches") is sexist.

The racism wasn't calling Bjork "Swedish" (that was simply misinformed). The racism was calling women of Swedish nationality "crazy." The sexism was calling Swedes who are women "crazy."

Saying "African bitches are aggressive" would be a similar example of racism and sexism.

lucifer_sam 08-17-2008 08:14 PM

Dude, shut the fuck up. If you seriously think I was being racist and sexist, you have no sense of humor whatsoever.

Get the fuck out if you want to start making senseless accusations.

dac 08-17-2008 08:15 PM

grammar wars are incredibly immature, contribute nothing to a thread, and are 100% unrelated to any topic...

Minstrel 08-17-2008 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 507885)
Dude, shut the fuck up. If you seriously think I was being racist and sexist, you have no sense of humor whatsoever.

Get the fuck out if you want to start making senseless accusations.

Translation: "I can't defend my racism and sexism, so I'll resort to obscenity-laden ranting."

Fair enough.

Son of JayJamJah 08-17-2008 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CAPTAIN CAVEMAN (Post 507599)
AIDS wolf are pretty "inaccessible"


Somehow they are even worse then their name.

Minstrel 08-17-2008 09:06 PM

Metal Machine Music is probably the hardest album to get into, for me.

Either it's an elaborate joke, or it's like Ulysses by Joyce...a purely academic endeavour, an achievement to understand rather than an entertainment to be enjoyed. ;)


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