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boo boo 07-20-2008 06:50 AM

Most inaccessible albums/artists ever
 
I'm willing to try anything, but theres stuff out there nowadays that makes Henry Cow sound like The Monkees. What are the most inaccessible artists and albums in your opinion?

Theres stuff that once upon a time would have been considered incredibly inacessible, but now we'll call it pop, we call My Bloody Valentine pop, but if they were around 30 years earlier, they wouldn't have been considered pop, they would have been considered insane. So it depends on the person really.

Some things that are accessible to me are not accessible to others, and some stuff thats considered accessible to others is not at all accessible to me. One good example is Psychocandy by The Jesus & Mary Chain, for whatever reason this album is considered "pop". Pretty much anything could be considered pop these days, I mean you make songs that sound like they were recorded at a construction site, and somehow people not only call it pop, they even call it accessible. Well not for me, to me it just sounds like Metal Machine Music with someone humming Beach Boys melodies over it, that dosen't make it accessible.

Then theres Lightning Bolt and Sunn O))) X_x

The Unfan 07-20-2008 09:36 AM

Whitehouse seem to fit this thread perfectly.

WaspStar 07-20-2008 09:42 AM

I really don't know what "accessible" means. Are AC/DC accessible? Back In Black is one of the best selling albums ever, but I personally don't find them particularly accessible. Is it just another term for what's in vogue?

Everyone talks about how accessible the Beach Boys are, but I don't hear it; it's just a bunch of dull melodies to me.

But as far as the JAMC go, I think Darklands would be their most "accessible" (read: easiest to digest for the average neophyte) album, not Psychocandy.

Molecules 07-20-2008 10:01 AM

For the majority of the radio-listening populace I'd imagine their parameters for what is accessible are broadly similar.

If it was a scale: you'd have something like 'Please Please Me' at one end (catchy melodies written to sell records); the other extreme would be half an hour of white noise by Merzbow or musique concrete - in pop terms far too unstructured and abrasive to make for easy listening.
Not that your modern-day wannabe hustler/scene kid could digest 'Please Please Me' but you see where I'm going.

Youth culture today has a problem anyway, there hasn't been a good generation gap since punk and most kids don't like hard dance; so you're left with the Killers and music that you can listen to with your parents coming at you from every shop PA. LAME.

Demonoid 07-20-2008 11:05 AM

Mixing clean female vocals with deep growls in Doom metal seems kinda hard for me to get into. Still getting used to it.(as I've been listening to such music quite a lot lately)
Other than that, i don't find anything inaccessible(or atleast for now).
Some stuff do bore me real quick though(doesn't put me off immediately)...Wankery **** like Malmsteen, Brutal/Slam Death metal, where the vocals tend to bore me quite a bit(although i don't mind listening to some of the bands there like Nile, Gorguts & Demilich), Cheesy power metal(i can handle it for like 30 mins at the most) & quite a few generic hardcore/metalcore bands.
And oh, like someone already mentioned, the beach boys bore me as well. Never really understood their appeal. Been quite a while since i listened to them though...

COBHCNick 07-20-2008 11:09 AM

You guys think the Beach Boys are inaccessible? Really? I cant think of a single Beach Boys song that isn't consonant like the whole way through...they never used disonance which is usually what would make a artist inaccessible.

Demonoid 07-20-2008 11:20 AM

I don't find them inaccessible...just boring.
To be fair though, i haven't given them a proper listen yet. Just a handful of songs which i have on my comp, along with some on radio, which just bored me after sometime.

COBHCNick 07-20-2008 11:22 AM

To be honest with you, I've always thought they were boring too...until I heard some fantastic performances of their songs by a local group. I think maybe it had to do with the recording quality rather than the actual songs themselves...

Piss Me Off 07-20-2008 11:49 AM

I still can't really handle Trout Mask Replica my Cpt Beefheart, couldn't imagine what people thought of it back then...

boo boo 07-20-2008 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by WaspStar (Post 499114)
I really don't know what "accessible" means. Are AC/DC accessible? Back In Black is one of the best selling albums ever, but I personally don't find them particularly accessible. Is it just another term for what's in vogue?

Everyone talks about how accessible the Beach Boys are, but I don't hear it; it's just a bunch of dull melodies to me.

But as far as the JAMC go, I think Darklands would be their most "accessible" (read: easiest to digest for the average neophyte) album, not Psychocandy.

No you don't quite get it. Something could be accessible and still not appeal to you.

"Inaccessible" for the most part is used to describe something that is so out there that it makes you ponder if it even qualifies as music.

Muzak 07-20-2008 12:26 PM

I find this to be pretty inaccessible.

MySpace.com - STALAGGH tribute page - 32 - Male - Huntington Beach, US - www.myspace.com/audio_terrrorist

Burpgun 07-20-2008 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Piss Me Off (Post 499167)
I still can't really handle Trout Mask Replica my Cpt Beefheart, couldn't imagine what people thought of it back then...

I've always loved how TMR sounded and I'm still surprised that people find it unlistenable considering what else is out there. I personally think Feist's voice is the most noisy, inaccessible sound I've ever heard. Either it's pure crap or avant-garde noise that's light years ahead of everything else and us primitive humans cannot comprehend it.

WaspStar 07-20-2008 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 499170)
No you don't quite get it. Something could be accessible and still not appeal to you.

"Inaccessible" for the most part is used to describe something that is so out there that it makes you ponder if it even qualifies as music.

I realize that I can not like something that's accessible (I think the Beatles are extremely "accessible" and I don't like them), but as detached as I get, I can't see how people who whine about how popular music is just a bunch of noise can eat up AC/DC albums.

By your definition, it's all down to the current fashion. In the 1950's, Elvis Presley could have been considered inaccessible.

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Originally Posted by COBHCNick (Post 499147)
You guys think the Beach Boys are inaccessible? Really? I cant think of a single Beach Boys song that isn't consonant like the whole way through...they never used disonance which is usually what would make a artist inaccessible.

Well, I suppose that given their reputation and most reviews of their music that I've read, they are considered accessible, but I don't understand why. The melodies seem dirge-like to me and the music ranges from bland to forgettable, with a stop off at generic. This isn't a critical review (that same description could be applied to some of the bands I actually like), just my reasoning as to why I don't see why they're "accessible." I'm not denying that they are, just saying that I don't really get it.

Piss Me Off 07-20-2008 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Burpgun (Post 499179)
I've always loved how TMR sounded and I'm still surprised that people find it unlistenable considering what else is out there. I personally think Feist's voice is the most noisy, inaccessible sound I've ever heard. Either it's pure crap or avant-garde noise that's light years ahead of everything else and us primitive humans cannot comprehend it.

I don't think it's unlistenable, i just can't really grasp what on earth he's about. There's some good moments though, i'll soldier on.

Inuzuka Skysword 07-20-2008 02:21 PM

The Velvet Underground
The Doors
Drone Doom on a hot sunny day (It is impossible...)

jackhammer 07-20-2008 02:22 PM

Merzbow-Pulse Demon is something I just cannot get into. It is almost white noise.

pheurton 07-20-2008 02:24 PM

merzbow/boris(early)/smiths

Demonoid 07-20-2008 02:31 PM

Oh i forgot, i just can't listen to some of these speedcore/gabber stuff.
It's more like i love some, but i hate quite a few as well.

FaSho 07-20-2008 02:40 PM

i cant find anyhing by our innocence lost anywhere

lucifer_sam 07-20-2008 08:28 PM

I can't listen to Bjork. Swedish bitches be crazy.

Alfred 07-20-2008 08:38 PM

I can't get into The Used, no matter how hard I try. Their music is boring, repetetive, and just downright sh!tty. The only song I find maybe somewhat likeable is The Bird And The Worm.

SATCHMO 07-20-2008 09:04 PM

Give Trey Anastasio's Surrender to the Air album a whirl and see if you don't walk away feeling like you have a hangover. It's an entire album of a large group of diverse musicians "improvising chaos", for a lack of a better way of putting it. Still, it IS brilliant.

Seltzer 07-21-2008 02:47 AM

Merzbow is an obvious one, but there's also funeral doom like Senthil and Wormphlegm.

boo boo 07-21-2008 03:17 AM

Come on guys, you're disapointing me. The Doors? Bjork? AC/DC?

Someone's not trying hard enough.


Muzak 07-21-2008 07:37 AM

A few other cantidates:

Pauline Oliveros- A Little Noise In The System

Ryoji Ikeda- One Minute

WaspStar 07-21-2008 01:40 PM




People actually listen to this?

Muzak 07-21-2008 01:55 PM

besides the vocals, I find that very accessible, especially for grindcore.

lucifer_sam 07-21-2008 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 499364)
Come on guys, you're disapointing me. The Doors? Bjork? AC/DC?

Someone's not trying hard enough.


That dude fucking destroyed a perfectly beautiful Telecaster! He should be shot, not listened to.

Piss Me Off 07-21-2008 02:16 PM

I'm sure that was insane back in the day but that just sounds like a Sonic Youth outro to me.

The Unfan 07-21-2008 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by WaspStar (Post 499496)
People actually listen to this?

Hell yes. A.C. are awesome.

Inuzuka Skysword 07-21-2008 04:12 PM

A.C. is good, but there is much better Grindcore out there.

WaspStar 07-21-2008 04:30 PM

AC have some brilliant song titles and some wonderfully misguided lyrics. I would never listen to them though.

boo boo 07-22-2008 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 499513)
That dude fucking destroyed a perfectly beautiful Telecaster! He should be shot, not listened to.

Believe it or not, this guy is considered a genius by hipsters everywhere.

Thankfully not all of his music is like this.

Jackassinthewill 07-22-2008 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Seltzer (Post 499360)
Merzbow is an obvious one, but there's also funeral doom like Senthil and Wormphlegm.

Yeah, I agree with you.
Noise like Merzbow, and funeral doom metal stuff, bleh...

15Steps 07-22-2008 10:06 AM

i thought my chems recent album was a good risky jump. they really tried to appeal to a different crowd.

Alfred 07-22-2008 10:25 AM

I don't find grindcore listenable at all, but AC's song titles make me laugh. I could read them all day.

"You Converted to Judaism So A Guy Would Touch Your ****"
"I'm Glad Jazz ***gots Don't Like Us Anymore"
"We're Not 'In Da House', You ****ing Wigger"
"Even Though Your Culture Oppresses Women, You Still Suck, You ****ing Towelhead"
"Limp Bizkit Think They're Black, But They're Just ***"
"Beating Up Hippies for Their Drugs at a Phish Concert"
"Anyone Who Likes The Dillinger Escape Plan is a ***got"
"I Sent a Thank You Card to the Guy Who Raped You"
"I Gave NAMBLA Pictures of Your Kid"
"Domestic Violence Is Really, Really, Really Funny"
"Hitler Was a Sensitive Man"
"Body by Auschwitz"
"Laughing While Leonard Peltier Gets Raped in Prison"
"Easy E Got AIDS From Freddie Mercury"

Thank God they're not serious.

Urban Hat€monger ? 07-22-2008 11:07 AM

I find the inclusion of Anal Cunt in this thread alongside the likes of Merzbow & Whitehouse laughable.

Anal Cunt are about as inaccessible as a five year old child repeatedly shouting 'BUM' to irritate their parents.

boo boo 07-22-2008 11:13 AM

Seriously, I'm talking about hardcore seriously impossible to get into sh*t and instead I get AC/DC. :laughing:

Inuzuka Skysword 07-22-2008 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 499872)
Seriously, I'm talking about hardcore seriously impossible to get into sh*t and instead I get AC/DC. :laughing:

I wish AC/DC were inaccessible. They are so bad that I think no one should have to hear that music.

boo boo 07-22-2008 11:17 AM

And you say this after calling Anal c*nt good. :laughing:

I'm too lazy to play the Dream Theater card right now.


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