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Old 08-25-2008, 05:10 PM   #381 (permalink)
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Nothing beats Ash Ra Tempel's S/T release when it comes to Krautrock/Psychedelic/Space rock. Not even Can or Amon Duul comes close for me. It's just two tracks with a total time of 45 mins.
Ocean by Eloy is also an awesome space-rock album. If there's something that could easily define space-rock, it's this!(ok fine, there are many others too, but this one stands out for me)

I agree with the "psychedelic" tag though...too many of those around now-a-days but rarely what I'm looking for.
Both of those albums are brilliant.
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Old 08-25-2008, 07:04 PM   #382 (permalink)
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Old 08-26-2008, 10:44 AM   #383 (permalink)
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Someone obviously hasn't heard a lot of Dead if they think they're just a country band. Anywho.

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Prog rock esque surrealism/fantasy album covers by everyone from low key folk singers to bland pop rock bands or anything that sounds absolutely nothing like the cover implies.

When I'm at a record store and I buy an album from some band I've never heard just because it has Roger Dean cover art and it ends up sounding like Journey, I'm gonna be really pissed off.
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Old 08-26-2008, 11:13 AM   #384 (permalink)
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Someone obviously hasn't heard a lot of Dead if they think they're just a country band. Anywho.
To be honest i'd rather look silly for saying that than listen to them to find out.
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Old 08-26-2008, 11:44 AM   #385 (permalink)
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Someone obviously hasn't heard a lot of Dead if they think they're just a country band.
Nice try, but I've actually listened to a ton of the Dead. Not only have I had a large number of friends and roommates over the years who were fans, but just last year I got into a similar conversation to this one with a deadhead on another forum who wound up giving me five or six hours of their best live performances to listen to. I took my time and gave all of it an honest, open-minded listen and found 99% of it to sound like long, boring country-ish music. The only song I have ever heard by them that sounds even remotely spacey or psychedelic is "Darkstar", and even that is kind of meh.

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Old 08-26-2008, 12:04 PM   #386 (permalink)
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Nice try, but I've actually listened to a ton of the Dead. Not only have I had a large number of friends and roommates over the years who were fans, but just last year I got into a similar conversation to this one with a deadhead on another forum who wound up giving me five or six hours of their best live performances to listen to. I took my time and gave all of it an honest, open-minded listen and found 99% of it to sound like long, boring country-ish music. The only song I have ever heard by them that sounds even remotely spacey or psychedelic is "Darkstar", and even that is kind of meh.
To each his own, but I think Live Dead is fantastic and certainly psychedelic. Though to be honest I actually prefer their country stuff, American Beauty is a flawless album, great record. Just country songs, and none of the jamming that they're known for.

My advice for those wanting to check out The Dead would be to ignore any albums they've done after Pigpen died.
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Old 08-26-2008, 12:10 PM   #387 (permalink)
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I don't know why people read these , i'm full of shit.

I've noticed half the stuff I say on this forum I contradict myself with just a couple of months later. I guess it depends on who's annoying me. If someone comes into a thread and starts hero worshipping a band in an annoying way , even if it's a band I like I can't help but start bringing up all their bad points just to annoy that person. I do the opposite too , if someone is putting down a band in an annoying way i'll just say I like them to argue with them. Even if i've not listened to that band in over 10 years. Just recently i've praised Whitesnake , Motley Crue and Kiss. I don't think i've even listened to those first 2 bands since about 1993.
The other week I found myself listening to the Libertines first album and quite enjoying it. don't get me wrong , I still think Pete Docherty is an annoying moon faced cunt but I don't hate that album anywhere near as much as I did a year ago. Mind you in my defence if I did say I hated it then it was probably to annoy some Docherty fanboy as I seem to remember my opinion of that album being that it has it's moments but it gets old real quick. Maybe not hearing it since 2003 or 4 has refreshed it for me without having to hear all the hype. It wouldn't be the first time thats happened I said the same of REM & Franz Ferdinand and I like both those bands now after slagging them off for years.

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Old 08-26-2008, 12:13 PM   #388 (permalink)
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I don't know why people read these , i'm full of shit.

I've noticed half the stuff I say on this forum I contradict myself with just a couple of months later. I guess it depends on who's annoying me. If someone comes into a thread and starts hero worshipping a band in an annoying way , even if it's a band I like I can't help but start bringing up all their bad points just to annoy that person. I do the opposite too , if someone is putting down a band in an annoying way i'll just say I like them to argue with them. Even if i've not listened to that band in over 10 years. Just recently i've praised Whitesnake , Motley Crue and Kiss. I don't think i've even listened to those first 2 bands since about 1993.
The other week I found myself listening to the Libertines first album and quite enjoying it. don't get me wrong , I still think Pete Docherty is an annoying moon faced cunt but I don't hate that album anywhere near as much as I did a year ago. Mind you in my defence if I did say I hated it then it was probably to annoy some Docherty fanboy as I seem to remember my opinion of that album being that it has it's moments but it gets old real quick. Maybe not hearing it since 2003 or 4 has refreshed it for me without having to hear all the hype. It wouldn't be the first time thats happened I said the same of REM & Franz Ferdinand and I like both those bands now after slagging them off for years.

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Old 08-26-2008, 12:23 PM   #389 (permalink)
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To each his own, but I think Live Dead is fantastic and certainly psychedelic.
Out of curiosity, what is it about their music that sounds psychedelic to you? To me, music I would describe as "psychedelic" takes me on some kind of spacey mental trip and feels unfettered by standard pop constraints. Examples of this from the 60s would be something like "Interstellar Overdrive" by Pink Floyd, "Facelift" by Soft Machine, or "The Visitations" by White Noise.

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It wouldn't be the first time thats happened I said the same of REM & Franz Ferdinand and I like both those bands now after slagging them off for years.
I can relate to this. Sometimes if I knock a band long enough I start to get curious about them and then suddenly find myself buying their albums and getting into them. This has happened to me in the past four years or so with both The Smiths and Sunn0))).
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Someone obviously hasn't heard a lot of Dead if they think they're just a country band. Anywho.

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Prog rock esque surrealism/fantasy album covers by everyone from low key folk singers to bland pop rock bands or anything that sounds absolutely nothing like the cover implies.

When I'm at a record store and I buy an album from some band I've never heard just because it has Roger Dean cover art and it ends up sounding like Journey, I'm gonna be really pissed off.
Two questions:

1. Why do you feel prog bands are the only ones who can legitimately use fantasy/surreal cover art?

2. Why would you buy an album purely due to the cover art? How does that indicate the quality of the music?
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