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Old 03-08-2009, 01:52 PM   #51 (permalink)
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I really like Have a Cigar, has this great sleazy quality to it which fits the lyrics perfectly. Obviously the title track is classic.
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Old 03-08-2009, 01:55 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I really like Have a Cigar
That song is perfect.
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Old 03-08-2009, 07:43 PM   #53 (permalink)
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[CENTER]17. He Is Legend "I Am Hollywood" (2004)

What it is: I'm just gonna say Hard Rock
Favorite Track: You Think I'm Pretty?

I love those bands that seem to combine elements of other bands you like, and that is the case with He Is Legend. They combine the heavy southern edge of Maylene with the pretty singing and post-hardcore atmosphere of Alexisonfire, and at the same time have their own idiosynchrasies. The end product is a very enjoyable hard rock album.

The reason I choose this album over 2006's "Suck Out The Poison" is partially because this is the last album with Schuylar Croom aforementioned pretty vocals, which are almost completely absent from that album (as HIL have stated is because of his excessive smoking). This

One weakness I have continually noticed with He Is Legend is their songwriting. It's not terrible, but it's quite simple. However, the excellent vocal delivery makes up for that. Schuylar Croom has fantastic screaming, singing, or whatever he decides to do with his voice. He certainly has a way around a vocal riff.

Most of the tracks on the album use the same formula. Fast rhythm, screaming/clean singing shifts, many guitar riffs, but you know the old saying, if it ain't broke...

I've posted this before...
Ok let me start by first saying good choice. I really liked this album, it has some really unique stuff on it and really grabs your attention. As for your take on the lyrics, I think they are aweseome for the most part. I mean...

'Is there a place that we can go to teach the children not to grow?
Where lovers don't remember where they met
And heartbreak is easy to forget?'


I don't know about you but I think they have some interesting things to say and a unique way of saying it.

Also, about what you said about Schuyler not doing vocals on the second album... Where did you get this information? I had never heard of this before and when I saw them live shortly after 'Suck out the Poison' was released Schuyler did perform the songs live. So im intersted to know if that is accurate.

Side note: When I saw them live they were about 45 minutes late coming on stage because two guys from the band had been arrested in the parking lot for smoking weed in their tour van. Pretty funny, they told the story when they came on stage and MATSOD came back out and played the 45 minutes, so no complaints here.

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...and here is Alexisonfire

[CENTER]16. Alexisonfire (2002)

What it is: Post-hardcore
Favorite Track: .44 Caliber Love Letter

There had to be an Alexisonfire album on my list, but the problem is, which one? Every time I sat down and thought about which album was my favorite, I ended up more clueless than I was before. At first I was pretty certain that it would be 2006's crisis, due to the accessibility of it and the great songs. But finally I settled on their self-titled debut album, and here's why.

"Alexisonfire" is rawer, less structured, more intense/energetic, and far more passionate than anything they released after. "Crisis" and "Watch Out!" have more standout tracks sure, but Alexisonfire works better as an album, and that is the point of this thread, is it not? So I shoved aside the accessibility of the other two, and decided that the sound of a young hardcore band making their first record is a far more interesting listen.

The sound of Alexisonfire on this album is sharp and angry. They take a lot of influence from hardcore punk, but some odd structuring and complexity say otherwise. There is tons of screaming here, probably 90% of the vocals are screamed. The singing doesn't strike me as pretty, nor does it aim at producing a hook, like it does on the other two albums, but it's more just an instrument in the chaotic mix. It's a sound that is tight, together, and no part seems to stand out more than another. The production is quite low-end, but that doesn't take away from the album at all, but instead adds to it. As I said before, it's very sharp.

Alexisonfire have produced a hardcore masterpiece with this album, and their rawness, passion, and punk rock vibes set them apart from the whole hottopiccore thing, a trend which they are often wrongly associated with.
Yet another great choice. I love this band and am priviledged to have seen them live. This album is very solid and I agree with '44 caliber love letter' thats an excellent song. If you haven't been to a show yet, get to one. They deliver.


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[CENTER]12. Underoath "Define The Great Line" (2006)

What it is: Too debatable
Favorite Track: A Moment Suspended In Time

After thinking about it for about ten minutes, I can't do it.
This is where I disagree with you. As much as I loved UnderOath in my high school days, the arrival of Spencer (2nd vocalist) was the worst thing that has ever happened to this band. Granted that 'They're only chasing safety' was a decent album with mild touches of old UnderOath, it couldn't dream to coming close to 'The Changing of Times' or the first two EP's. Dallas Taylor is probably one of the best post-harcore/ metalcore vocalists to ever walk the earth, therefore I believe choosing an album which featured him might have been a better choice. Not to mention 'The Changing of Times' is the album that established this band and launched them into the center of the scene which they have been owning ever scince. While I respect this choice to feature this band in your top 25, maybe try and go back to the roots, you won't be disapointed.
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Old 03-08-2009, 07:46 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Also, about what you said about Schuyler not doing vocals on the second album... Where did you get this information? I had never heard of this before and when I saw them live shortly after 'Suck out the Poison' was released Schuyler did perform the songs live. So im intersted to know if that is accurate...
Sorry, grammar fail on my part. Schyler's vocals are on SOTP, but they're a lot different there is what I meant.

And about Underoath, I've heard a lot of their early stuff. It's great, but DTGL is better IMO. Besides, if Dallas Taylor hadn't left Underoath, we wouldn't have the even awesome-er Maylene, would we?

Thanks for the response, glad to see someone who enjoys a lot of my less-loved choices!
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Sorry, grammar fail on my part. Schyler's vocals are on SOTP, but they're a lot different there is what I meant.

And about Underoath, I've heard a lot of their early stuff. It's great, but DTGL is better IMO. Besides, if Dallas Taylor hadn't left Underoath, we wouldn't have the even awesome-er Maylene, would we?

Thanks for the response, glad to see someone who enjoys a lot of my less-loved choices!
Ok glad to clear that up. Btw, He is Legend disapointed live. Not sure if it was the just getting out of jail thing but they were way off on everything. They were headlining and MATSOD totally stole their show.

Yes Maylene is the best thing to come out of that situation, just goes to show you how awesome Dallas is. The guy made it in the music business twice. Doing two different kinds of music. Im impressed.
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Yeah, sometimes I forget that he was even in Underoath. The bands are just so different.
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Old 03-26-2009, 08:07 PM   #57 (permalink)
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What band sings angry politically-charged hard rock who's name begins with the letter R...






















...other than Rage Against The Machine?

10. Refused "The Shape Of Punk To Come" (1998)

What it is: Loud and epic post-hardcore
Favorite Track: Liberation Frequency

I don't know why I held off on this album for so long, but I did. Maybe it was because I was intimidated. It was probably that didn't want some crappy hardcore with political ideals that I don't exactly agree with shoved down my throat. But boy, was I pleasantly blown away by Refused's 1998 hardcore punk classic "The Shape Of Punk To Come".

"The Shape Of Punk To Come" is the loudest album I have ever heard, and one of the few that I fell in love with on first listen. Like Genghis Tron, they have all of my favorite elements of music. They are most often described as a hardcore band, but this is not your average generic hardcore record. This is madness.

The album opens to the sound of traffic with Worms Of The Sense/Faculties Of The Skull, and follows with some angry screaming over top of some infectious instrumentation. It is one of the better tracks on the album, but only a taste of what is to come. Liberation Frequency begins with a quiet and moody opening verse, but you are soon assaulted with shrill screaming and hard guitar with the volume set to eleven.

Refused achieved levels of intensity that your band wishes they could. They effectively use loud-soft shifts on Liberation Frequency and New Noise as well as (hard-to-describe) two-note patterns in the title track. I don't know how to describe how awesome the latter technique is (Genghis Tron and L'Antietem have also used it) or even what it is, but just listen to the harder parts, and you'll understand.

Refused completely revolutionized hardcore punk with this album. Instead of making another shriek-fest like Songs To Fan The Flames Of Discontent, they completely reinvented the genre using electronics, samples, and odd song structures. It's punk-punk rock so to speak.

This album wasn't the shape of punk to come in the sense of people making experimental masterpieces like this one, but it did open the eyes of fans around the world who were content with their fast, angry three chord nonsense. No matter how many times I listen to this album it never gets old, and I can't see that changing any time soon. Refused made one of the most addictive and infectious albums ever, and I don't know what I would do without the album. If you are a fan of punk, hardcore, or heavy music in general, you must hear this album before you die.

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I really like what this band was doing around this time. I mean they laid a blue print for alot of bands to come. Their work in the late 90's was groundbreaking. Wishing I listened to more of this band, I actually have never owned anything by them, but you may have just inspired me to pick up this album soon. Good review.
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Old 03-27-2009, 06:25 AM   #59 (permalink)
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Still one of the most intense albums i've ever heard, probably will be for a very long time. Bonafide classic.
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Old 03-27-2009, 06:33 AM   #60 (permalink)
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10. Refused "The Shape Of Punk To Come" (1998)

What it is: Loud and epic post-hardcore
Favorite Track: Liberation Frequency

I keep hearing about this album. Gotta admit, I'm pretty curious about it. The second I get a fat EHD this'll be the first thing I get on the subsequent download-spree.
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