So do you feel rock will be on top again
 

For the past ten years or so it seems everyone has strayed away and gone to rap... Please post your thoughts on this subject

That is not true at all.

everyone?

What major city if your white suburban home outside of?

Well the media makes it seem that way, doesn't it? It's just the billboard charts, nothing more... Rock is still living strong.

we neeed something NEEEW

"New" meaning what?

Something that rocks even more than Rock.

Eskimo skank is the next big thing apparently. Going to be chilled as fuck.

RED HOT MAGMA!

Wow you and I really went in opposite directions with that one. :D

something that goes further out and deeper inward! hotter and chiller, insanely restrained!!

A celestial body entering a black hole would be apt for this!

ahh yes the music of the spheres... if only i were a synaesthese...

Now you are just getting too clever for me :D We hijacked a thread pretty good lol

Rock is like so underrated guize.

It's okay, the cockpit door was open and no one was at the controls anyways.

rock is like a rock its like, not going anywhere man. unless you pick it up and throw it. or if theres a landslide. but eventually its probably gonna sit somewhere for a while. great metaphor rite???

Rock will be subducted deep beneath the continental plate to the mantle where it will be melted down. Eventually it will spew forth from a volcano as flaming lava and destroy Seattle.

That analogy seems to sum up many new posts on here recently!

I don't mind Seattle it destroyed the hair bands

Please don't destroy them :(
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welcome to being old. have big band orchestras come back to being on top? how about jazz ensembles? funk? AOR?

it's not like those styles don't exist anymore or can't be found, but just like rock they're old. rock music is pushing 60 now and hasn't really grown since the 70s. yes there are minor stylistic changes and seminal hybrid examples but overall it's still power chords and pelvic thrusts.

it's no longer the vogue style of the mainstream anymore because it was there 10 years ago. today's kids don't want to listen to more of the same crap 30 somethings grew up with. it's how it's been for decades now, the mainstream caters to the demographic with the most amount of disposable income - teenagers. that's it, that's all. if there are some residual adolescents closing in on 30 who still want to adhere to that facet of pop culture it's their prerogative and a bonus for the mainstream but don't fool yourself into thinking it's anything besides marketing or that you're somehow leading the pack and not just that creepy old dude who thinks they're cool because they'll get beer for the high school kids.

when's the last time you talked to someone who was starting into their 20s in the early 90s when nirvana came along and seemingly changed mainstream music overnight? - it was going so good then it went to hell, all these depressed idiots who couldn't sing, couldn't play their instruments, had no idea how to play 'real' music, 90s rock was just horrible and depressing....

at this point the net is the medium of choice for new music so it's really hard to say what direction things are going to move in with the next generation of kids trying to establish their aural identity.

if you want to play rock music then by all means do it up, unless you live in some super remote area i'm sure there's a local bar that will let you use their stage. on the other hand if you want to be a mainstream rock star you might as well just sell your gear and dump all of that money into lottery tickets.

damn i have to start taking less time to write serious replies haha

I agree with mr dave 100% on this.

Mr. Dave makes some good points, but let's remember that there are rock bands that are making it 'big'. I'm talking being able to make music that will make you world known, maybe not within the mainstream, but to enough people that you can be commercially viable. It's not so hard at the end of the day. Rock won't ever die out, simply because none of the styles that came before it have. There are still dance bands, there are still crooners out there playing and making a living out of it.

Just because it isn't "mainstream" anymore (which I completely dissagree with) doesn't mean it's not there. The big bands of the 70's still get thousands of listens, and more and more people are opening up their eyes to the past as well as the future. I used to think that rock was dead and today's kids listen only to rap and other rubbish, but that's wrong. So what if it's not the genre that's talked about the most on the media, who the hell cares? Not you if you bring it up, only the idiots that listen to the media care.

I'm basically saying that it seems rap took over for the gen after mine and honestly I think I would rather have my kids listen to any depressed rock star sing than have to hear the wonderful story of eminem

Honestly kids are having babies younger than ever all these things that relate back to the message that this Rap music sends out.. Im not saying the new age rock with your buckcherry is away from that. I just seems like a way more sexually explicit type world after the whole Rap blowup.. You do the math.

Plenty of styles have already died out (and it would be unwise to resurrect them), but yes, their influence lives on through popular music. I don't think rock n' roll has waxed quite yet; it may in the next decade or so, but it's still going today. The bigger conundrum is what will happen to the music industry itself (and independent music stores - the real victims of the piracy age).

lolwut

my favourite poster

Well he is right. I have 3 kids. 2 because of rap and only one because of rock-n-roll.

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*Beeeeep* Wrong answer, try again.

So, rap has ruined society? Welcome to the same argument made when Elvis thrust his pelvis in the 50s.

The music that came out of that? Rock and roll. Its descendants? The music you listen to now.

Mainstream rap may be crap, just like mainstream rock can be crock, but in the good old underground there are rap acts making honest music.





Stfu.

And also when jazz had people dancing the jitterbug and on and on. Some form of music is always destroying society as far as some people are concerned.

True. Music without controversy is uninspired.

I'm hoping people start blaming smooth jazz next.

Fuck that genre.

Yeah, Society has been in a state of un - doing since the forties if you listen to the naysayers who say "nay" and wind up sounding like horses...


Will rock ever be on top again... I'd like to say yes, but I have a feeling it's going to be a no. That's not because rock is old, terrible or whatever, but I think popular music has been so swallowed up by big business, its turly hard / almost impossible for a band to come out and mess things up - the only "stir" you get out of a new rock band these days are the kinds that are created by their record company or distributor...


I think companies have the market so well pinned down these days its impossible to have anything dominant at all...


The record companies know a certain percentage of their audience love, rock, alternative, soft rock, adult contemporary, rap, r and b, funk, dance, electronic, etc...


They plan charts and figures, graphs and spreadsheets based on sales and they promote according to their sales needs. Like in any other retailing business, its all counted down to the nth degree, planned and then reflected upon for future planning.


They'll serve up the audience what they want in proportions equal to the demand.


This, I believe has pretty much accelerated a stagnating effect on most musical styles - artists need their labels, they need their work distributed, promoted, funded until it sells well...

I know I seem slightly jaded, cynical, but I just think this is the truth.

This, and perhaps being desensitized. There's so much music nowadays - from so many genres, and thanks to the internet, from so many people - your cousin's friend's son could make an album of original songs and be heard by the masses - that rock just doesn't matter anymore.

Nothing really matters anymore, in terms of music. It's all about the bands now. One person may love Animal Collective (psychedelic rock) as much as they enjoy Dizzee Rascal (hip-hop).

Saying you like Rock or any genre really just means you haven't decided, or are too lazy to name all your favourite bands.

have you watched cable tv in the last decade? how about satellite tv?

wanna take a guess as to what else started invading middle american homes about 10 years ago? biggest porn provider on the planet and it's all 1s and 0s.

i'm totally in line with this. although from what i gather online the ratio of start up rock bands vs. successful rock bands is rather puny. to the point where i really think you have better odds of winning the lotto than being a world renowned rock star.