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Old 01-19-2009, 08:44 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I don't know bout that. I've always read that Cobain told Killing Joke they'd never heard of them, and I've also read that Killing Joke said Nirvana admitted to being fans.

Guess we'll never know
I think we already do know. Killing Joke were a well known post-punk band that definitely would've been known to the members of Nirvana considering the other bands they cited as influences. And "Eighties" was one of Killing Joke's most well known songs.

And if that doesn't convince you, consider this account from Nirvana's manager (from here):

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"Come as You Are" (1991) is fueled by a slowed-down version of the guitar riff in "Eighties" (1985). At the time, Killing Joke opted not to file a copyright infringement lawsuit for personal and financial reasons. Nirvana's then-manager Danny Goldberg later copped to the similarity between the two songs. In the 2000 book, Eyewitness Nirvana: The Day-By-Day Chronicle, Goldberg said, "We met to discuss what [Nevermind's] second single would be. We couldn't decide between 'Come as You Are' and 'In Bloom.' Kurt was nervous about 'Come as You Are' because it was too similar to a Killing Joke song ['Eighties'], but we all thought it was still the better song to go with. And, he was right, Killing Joke later did complain about it."
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Old 01-19-2009, 08:47 PM   #22 (permalink)
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True, if Cobain cited the Vaselines and YMG's as influences he would have heard of Killing Joke
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Old 01-19-2009, 08:55 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Damn you Wikipedia.. YOU HAVE FAILED ME!
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Old 01-20-2009, 06:29 AM   #24 (permalink)
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People keep forgetting the Black Sabbath influences especially in the guitar riffs and yes he was a fan of them too.
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Old 01-20-2009, 07:15 AM   #25 (permalink)
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No one is original, we learn music from listening to it. We reproduce what we hear. But we are supposed to use our own artistic abilities to define our own music. We kind of combine many different sounds together to make our own. But we keep a particular sound that is always present.

I'd be happy if pink just used a bit of Nirvanas music but used her own artistic tools to make her own unique version. Otherwise she should give them credit. I wander if Dave Grohl ever picks it up...
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P.S At least Nirvana kept the same name, gave Bowie credit and made a unique version for the man who sold the world.
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Old 01-20-2009, 08:58 AM   #27 (permalink)
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P.S At least Nirvana kept the same name, gave Bowie credit and made a unique version for the man who sold the world.
And what about the Killing Joke song?
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"What's Going On?" by Husker Du and "1979" by the Smashing Pumpkins???
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Old 01-20-2009, 10:13 AM   #29 (permalink)
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And what about the Killing Joke song?
I'm not their lawyer! That's sounds pretty ridiculous though... At least it was consulted cause some one said something. Pink is free... Dave Grohl should be pissed!
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Old 01-20-2009, 10:37 AM   #30 (permalink)
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I'm not their lawyer! That's sounds pretty ridiculous though... At least it was consulted cause some one said something. Pink is free... Dave Grohl should be pissed!
Can you link to these Pink songs? I'm curious to hear them.
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