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Old 01-25-2009, 02:32 PM   #41 (permalink)
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89. Trans Europe Express - Kraftwerk



Tangerine Dream are great, and I can dig Can but I find them overrated. I'm generally not a big Krautrock fan, but naturally I have to dig the most poppy of the Krautrockers. I just love the sound of them moogs, and the musical arangements here are so good. This obviously makes a great companion piece for David Bowie's Low. Both of these albums remind me a lot of the soundtracks to the first two Sonic the Hedgehog games for some reason.
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Old 01-25-2009, 09:16 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Kraftwerk covers are always airbrushed to a frightening degree.
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Old 01-25-2009, 09:37 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Kraftwerk covers are always airbrushed to a frightening degree.
I think you'll find that's part of the aesthetic, rather than to cover blemishes. It's meant to look artificial, almost painted, like a 50's billboard or something. In their suits they look like corporate management basking in the success of the Trans-Europe Express
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Old 01-25-2009, 10:44 PM   #44 (permalink)
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I've never enjoyed Kraftwerk. Possibly because their landmark album Autobahn was a blatant ripoff of Neu!'s 1972 self-titled (ironically after they left Kraftwerk themselves due to "creative differences"), and everything after that isn't so much kosmische musik as it is techno-pop, including TEX. I'm sorry but I've never had a place in my heart for that.

But eh, to each their own. There are worse albums on this list already.
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Old 01-25-2009, 11:09 PM   #45 (permalink)
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I've never enjoyed Kraftwerk. Possibly because their landmark album Autobahn was a blatant ripoff of Neu!'s 1972 self-titled (ironically after they left Kraftwerk themselves due to "creative differences"), and everything after that isn't so much kosmische musik as it is techno-pop, including TEX. I'm sorry but I've never had a place in my heart for that.

But eh, to each their own. There are worse albums on this list already.
I'm sure the fact that both 'Autobahn' and 'Neu!' were produced and tremendously influenced by Conny Plank had something to do with the albums sounding similar. The 'motorik' beat was developed in those early sessions by Rother, Schneider etc, I think they were all entitled to take away what they learned with them.

I love both albums, and there's no reason to posit that Autobahn 'rips off' Neu!... by the time of it's release (as you said yourself) Kraftwerk had gone off in a completely different direction with their use of drum machines and synthesizers, leaving acoustic instruments behind (except the odd treated voice) and going on to lay the foundations for electronic music to come.
Neu! went on doing the motorik/ambient thing (with great success, obviously).

And dismissing Kraftwerk as techno-pop, when techno had not been invented yet? The originators of techno itself in early 80s middle-class suburban Detroit got the idea for it staying up listening to Kraftwerk records and combining it with the danceability of funk and disco.

I see where you're coming from I think, Neu! offers a much more 'kosmiche' and cerebral experience (although 'Autobahn' to me still retains the hypnotic quality of their earlier 'Krautrock' work)... But, ya know. Different strokes for different Kraut-luvvin' folks!
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Old 01-25-2009, 11:25 PM   #46 (permalink)
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I'm sure the fact that both 'Autobahn' and 'Neu!' were produced and tremendously influenced by Conny Plank had something to do with the albums sounding similar. The 'motorik' beat was developed in those early sessions by Rother, Schneider etc, I think they were all entitled to take away what they learned with them.

I love both albums, and there's no reason to posit that Autobahn 'rips off' Neu!... by the time of it's release (as you said yourself) Kraftwerk had gone off in a completely different direction with their use of drum machines and synthesizers, leaving acoustic instruments behind (except the odd treated voice) and going on to lay the foundations for electronic music to come.
Neu! went on doing the motorik/ambient thing (with great success, obviously).

And dismissing Kraftwerk as techno-pop, when techno had not been invented yet? The originators of techno itself in early 80s middle-class suburban Detroit got the idea for it staying up listening to Kraftwerk records and combining it with the danceability of funk and disco.

I see where you're coming from I think, Neu! offers a much more 'kosmiche' and cerebral experience (although 'Autobahn' to me still retains the hypnotic quality of their earlier 'Krautrock' work)... But, ya know. Different strokes for different Kraut-luvvin' folks!
Whether or not Ralf and Florian ripped Rother and Schneider off doesn't matter to me, but it's really disturbing when they sound so similar. Autobahn really just sounds out of place in the long haul of Kraftwerk's discography.

And I don't mind dismissing Kraftwerk as techno-pop when I absolutely loathe everything else with that nomenclature (they called it that themselves, btw). Fuck do I care if they started it. I'm not gonna champion whoever created smooth fucking jazz because "they did it first" when the entire genre amounts to as much creativity as you'll find in the average Sunday sermon.
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Old 01-26-2009, 11:58 AM   #47 (permalink)
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It's not really comparable to who invented smooth jazz, we're talking about the whole gamut of electronic music here. And I wonder if you've listened to Autobahn recently because it sounds like nothing else before it, I believe there's one track with a motorik rhythm on synths... Well I like that f*cking record.

this is sheer lunacy LS, i'm disappointed in you. oh well, on with the stupid list

edit: AND I LIKE TECHNO POP
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Old 01-26-2009, 07:51 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Sam, I'll promise to shut up about you trolling other threads as long as you stop trolling mine.
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Old 01-26-2009, 08:00 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Nice list so far Boo, I'm interested to see how it turns out.
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I dont know terrible but your avatar will surely give me nightmares...
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