If You Could Change One Aspect Of Your Favourite Band (soundtrack, metal)

jackhammer · 02-05-2009, 01:14 PM

So what would you change about your favourite band? Surely no one band is perfect enough for you not to find criticism. It could be anything from a band member to direction, album covers etc.

Pink Floyd

Roger Waters. More specifically his gradual taking over the band. To a certain extent we can blame both David Gilmour and Richard Wright for not contributing enough new material towards the end but this then only fuelled Waters to assume more control. A whole band effort after the brilliant 'Animals' would have been very interesting. Instead we got the bore fest that is 'The Wall'.

Next!

**Janszoon** · 02-05-2009, 02:22 PM

The Church

Playing it safe. I know a lot of their fans were thrilled by Peter Koppes rejoining the band and by their subsequent return to their classic jangley 80s sound but I disagree with those people. When circumstances forced the band into being a three-piece and then a two-piece in the early and mid 90s it caused them to experiment and move in new directions with their sound. As a result they produced what I consider to be their three best albums: Priest=Aura, Sometime Anywhere and Magician Among the Spirits. Don't get me wrong, their new albums are pretty good too, but I think they'd have been amazing if they had continued trying to experiment instead of playing it safe.

dac · 02-05-2009, 02:27 PM

Radiohead

Compose a longer song for once. Your longest song (excluding Motion Picture Soundtrack which has like 3 minutes of unexplained dead silence) is Paranoid Android at 6:23. Make your 'Echoes.' I wanna see if you've got it in you.

jackhammer · 02-05-2009, 02:29 PM

I don't think I have ever heard one single track by this band

(The Church)

zappafan23 · 02-05-2009, 02:30 PM

I would have liked to see where the Mothers had gone if Frank Zappa didnt oust the entire band. I realize he hired top notch pros to perform with him, and used different artists depending on what album he was making, but the original Mothers were a great band... We're Only in it for the Money exemplifies this, although all their albums from that period were great...

lucifer_sam · 02-05-2009, 02:38 PM

Queens of the Stone Age

No, I'm not going to say that Homme should have stuck with Olivieri. He was a terrible bassist. I do wish that J-Ho would concentrate more on QOTSA's material. It seems like all his side projects (Desert Sessions, Eagles of Death Metal, etc.) consume the majority of his time. He's really coming into his own as a songwriter and he can still make worthwhile accomplishments if he puts the effort into them. Also, fire Michael Shuman and get Scott Reeder back into the mix. He was rad.

**Janszoon** · 02-05-2009, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

I don't think I have ever heard one single track by this band

(The Church)

Their biggest song was "Under the Milky Way" back in 88. You may have heard that and just not known who it was. They are kind of a poppy hybrid of post-punk and psychedelic music with a definite Velvet Underground influence in the vocal department. If that sounds like something you might like at all, they're really worth checking out. I'd be happy to help.

dac · 02-05-2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Their biggest song was "Under the Milky Way" back in 88. You may have heard that and just not known who it was. They are kind of a poppy hybrid of post-punk and psychedelic music with a definite Velvet Underground influence in the vocal department. If that sounds like something you might like at all, they're really worth checking out. I'd be happy to help.

I don't know about jackhammer but I'm intrigued... wanna help a brother out?

Bulldog · 02-05-2009, 02:45 PM

The Fall.

Having seen them live and listened to the album in question many many times, I can say that the 2005 incarnation of the Fall was the best one in years, and sacking the lot of them (except Elena Poulou, for obvious reasons) could so easily have been a huge mistake on Mark E. Smith's part. The band Smith hired to record the next two albums isn't at all bad - I do like both of them, but 2005's Fall Heads Roll is among their best studio efforts and therefore takes something very special indeed to beat it. It's a task Reformation and Imperial Wax Solvent aren't up to (in my opinion of course).

So, yeah, he should have stuck with them in other words.

**Janszoon** · 02-05-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dac

I don't know about jackhammer but I'm intrigued... wanna help a brother out?

Sure thing. Keep an eye out for a PM in the next few hours.

02-05-2009, 01:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	If You Could Change One Aspect Of Your Favourite Band So what would you change about your favourite band? Surely no one band is perfect enough for you not to find criticism. It could be anything from a band member to direction, album covers etc. Pink Floyd Roger Waters. More specifically his gradual taking over the band. To a certain extent we can blame both David Gilmour and Richard Wright for not contributing enough new material towards the end but this then only fuelled Waters to assume more control. A whole band effort after the brilliant 'Animals' would have been very interesting. Instead we got the bore fest that is 'The Wall'. Next! __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

02-05-2009, 02:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
Janszoon Mate, Spawn & Die Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Rapping Community Posts: 24,593	The Church Playing it safe. I know a lot of their fans were thrilled by Peter Koppes rejoining the band and by their subsequent return to their classic jangley 80s sound but I disagree with those people. When circumstances forced the band into being a three-piece and then a two-piece in the early and mid 90s it caused them to experiment and move in new directions with their sound. As a result they produced what I consider to be their three best albums: Priest=Aura, Sometime Anywhere and Magician Among the Spirits. Don't get me wrong, their new albums are pretty good too, but I think they'd have been amazing if they had continued trying to experiment instead of playing it safe. __________________ A Night in the Life of the Invisible Man Time & Place 25 Albums You Should Hear Before the Moon Crashes into the Earth and We All Die last.fm

02-05-2009, 02:27 PM	#3 (permalink)
dac MB's Biggest Fanboy Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cloud Cuckoo Land Posts: 2,852	Radiohead Compose a longer song for once. Your longest song (excluding Motion Picture Soundtrack which has like 3 minutes of unexplained dead silence) is Paranoid Android at 6:23. Make your 'Echoes.' I wanna see if you've got it in you. __________________

02-05-2009, 02:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	I don't think I have ever heard one single track by this band (The Church) __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

02-05-2009, 02:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
lucifer_sam Unrepentant Ass-Mod Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3,921	Queens of the Stone Age No, I'm not going to say that Homme should have stuck with Olivieri. He was a terrible bassist. I do wish that J-Ho would concentrate more on QOTSA's material. It seems like all his side projects (Desert Sessions, Eagles of Death Metal, etc.) consume the majority of his time. He's really coming into his own as a songwriter and he can still make worthwhile accomplishments if he puts the effort into them. Also, fire Michael Shuman and get Scott Reeder back into the mix. He was rad. __________________ first.am

02-05-2009, 02:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
zappafan23 Groupie Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Seattle Posts: 18	I would have liked to see where the Mothers had gone if Frank Zappa didnt oust the entire band. I realize he hired top notch pros to perform with him, and used different artists depending on what album he was making, but the original Mothers were a great band... We're Only in it for the Money exemplifies this, although all their albums from that period were great...

02-05-2009, 02:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
Bulldog why bother? Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 4,840	The Fall. Having seen them live and listened to the album in question many many times, I can say that the 2005 incarnation of the Fall was the best one in years, and sacking the lot of them (except Elena Poulou, for obvious reasons) could so easily have been a huge mistake on Mark E. Smith's part. The band Smith hired to record the next two albums isn't at all bad - I do like both of them, but 2005's Fall Heads Roll is among their best studio efforts and therefore takes something very special indeed to beat it. It's a task Reformation and Imperial Wax Solvent aren't up to (in my opinion of course). So, yeah, he should have stuck with them in other words. Last edited by Bulldog; 02-05-2009 at 02:55 PM.