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CanwllCorfe 02-08-2009 11:42 PM

I-Doser
 
I looked it up and the Recreational Drug Thread was the only result, but for time's sake, seeing as its 110 pages, I would just make this. Because that's obviously about REAL drugs. Firstly, it is quite annoying for anyone to hear the concept and say "ohhh that can't be real!" I see comments on youtube videos of certain doses that were posted and people REALLY think you will get high listening to the Marijuana one, or drunk listening to the Alcohol one. Binaural Beats and the science behind them has been around for over 100 years. It's not some new found gimmick. It is simply a recreational program that alters your brainwaves (if done correctly) to a certain level, and accordingly, feel certain effects. I-Doser refined the science and have made doses that attempt to recreate certain feelings. There is one dose called Insomniac that will put you to sleep, and for me it is very effective. I imagine because the brain has 4 basic levels, sorted in accordance to the amount of activity going on. The higher the level, the higher the amount of activity. So it simply lowers your brain waves to a state of relaxation, and eventually, sleep. I haven't tried any of the drug ones yet, but I may soon. I had some bizarre results with a few of the doses that I have tried. I don't want to do them all at once, so I spread them out. Chances are, it wouldn't be a good idea to do too many at once anyway, since it's dealing with brain activity. Have any of you tried this program yet?

reno42 02-09-2009 05:54 PM

I'm kind of interested...but I haven't found anywhere to listen for free :/

simplephysics 02-09-2009 05:56 PM

It's bull****. I downloaded a track and it didn't do anything but give me a slight headache.

CanwllCorfe 02-09-2009 08:34 PM

and did you do what you were supposed to? No distractions, turn everything off around you, no light, lay down, and most importantly, a good pair of overhead headphones

Kirby 02-09-2009 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CanwllCorfe (Post 593505)
and did you do what you were supposed to? No distractions, turn everything off around you, no light, lay down, and most importantly, a good pair of overhead headphones

I did, and yeah.

It's just annoying noises.

CanwllCorfe 02-09-2009 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirby (Post 593519)
I did, and yeah.

It's just annoying noises.

They aren't noises they are tones at different hertz levels. It's not meant to be "pleasant" sounding. They're not making music.

CAPTAIN CAVEMAN 02-09-2009 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CanwllCorfe (Post 593589)
They aren't noises they are tones at different hertz levels.

gee whiz. who gives a shit, if it sounds like noise, its noise

CanwllCorfe 02-09-2009 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CAPTAIN CAVEMAN (Post 593590)
gee whiz. who gives a shit, if it sounds like noise, its noise

sorry that you opened a thread that I posted and didn't find it interesting? Actually, there IS noise. Pink noise and white noise. If you just said it's weird or it just sounds like noise it would have been fine. No need for the "who gives a ****" or any reason to get all hostile

tore 02-10-2009 01:51 AM

What annoys me a lot is that people don't understand how they are affected by things. When new treatments and so on are tested on people, every form of treatment which is not dangerous to the administered should be expected to have beneficial effects.

For this reason, every new medicine that comes out on the market has to be tested against sugar pills of all thing. You know why? It's because sugar pills also make people feel better. New medical products like new medicines have to do significantly better than the sugar pills.

Healing, soundwaves, magic, whatever - just about everything can have a placebo effect. Has I-Doser been tested against placebo?

CanwllCorfe 02-10-2009 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by toretorden (Post 593628)
What annoys me a lot is that people don't understand how they are affected by things. When new treatments and so on are tested on people, every form of treatment which is not dangerous to the administered should be expected to have beneficial effects.

For this reason, every new medicine that comes out on the market has to be tested against sugar pills of all thing. You know why? It's because sugar pills also make people feel better. New medical products like new medicines have to do significantly better than the sugar pills.

Healing, soundwaves, magic, whatever - just about everything can have a placebo effect. Has I-Doser been tested against placebo?

I don't think it needs to be, since the people that truly believe in it are more the minority than anything. As you can see from most of the replies, many just find it to be static and weird noises. It's still an ongoing science, but about the placebo effect, I don't understand how it could need one. The program really can change your brainwaves, it's just a matter of the "effect" you get. THAT can be misconstrued and exaggerated. So maybe they will do one someday, but I don't think it's mainstream enough yet.


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