well if you wanna hear "dope industrial experimentation in metal" then the second album would be the only option. I dunno wtf frownland's talking about. Relatively speaking.

the new one is just a guitar clinic like a black metal version of Gorguts that happens to have a few electronic samples that in no way drive the sound of the entire product while the second is literally 100% industrial metal with no breaks anywhere in the electronics.

I find the drums pretty industrial still but more in timbre than in style. Also I think it's better.

Best industrial metal:

I find the drums on the second to be actual electro drums instead of live samples

And?

I'm about halfway through this and I'm conflicted but I understand why I'm conflicted. In concert I imagine that those synths and sound ****ery whatnots must have been loud as **** as live **** is, and so the contrast between deafening anti-music and Orridge's monotone ramblings must have been ****ed up, but after a half hour the effect isn't what I feel it should be. I love the approach, I love the lack of attempt to entertain, I love that guy next to Orridge who just seems to be doing what the **** ever and I can't even tell if what he's doing sounds like anything (though that mouth thing he has at 6 mins clearly is doing something cool), but I know that I'm missing something with the lack of deafening sound. I just wish I could be there probably unable to hear my own thoughts as Orridge just kind of chants.