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Old 11-21-2023, 10:45 PM   #32581 (permalink)
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Old 11-22-2023, 09:04 AM   #32582 (permalink)
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EXCELLENT almost-Punk 70s band, VERY Punkish but not labeled that way. Love the rhythm and bass guitars.
Hell yeah.

They were part of the punk movement and a different proposition entirely. Rude and agressive but with superb musicianship and many other sides to them.


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Old 11-22-2023, 04:55 PM   #32583 (permalink)
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Shi I went and did it again



also Oddwin on how he made the van cleef beat

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Old 11-22-2023, 05:06 PM   #32584 (permalink)
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Couldn't agree more about enjoyment as being valuable on its own....
Excellent, your whole post, very well stated!

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Svarog....
I know that name but couldn't find one of their songs that I really love. It will probably show up in one of my playlists when I've forgotten all about it.

And I got sidetracked.... happens to me a lot!... one of my most favorite symphonic metal bands. THIS (from 2005) is why I started calling it 'Metal Opera' so many years ago. Tarja Turunen can always distract me from whatever I'm thinking or doing, one of the most amazing voices I have ever heard....

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Old 11-22-2023, 11:26 PM   #32585 (permalink)
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Old 11-24-2023, 08:55 AM   #32587 (permalink)
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I tend to have a hard time with theatrics, probably haven't attended enough live performances to get it. Without outing too much personal info I'll say that as a Finn there is a pretty high chance I'll eventually come around.
Her voice is indeed undeniable, gave a look apparently she dropped a Christmas album this month! From a quick listen it's also in the high-drama side of things.

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Posting about the track Broadcast - Arc Of the Journey on another thread made me think of this Noitalinna Huraa! - Avaruuslaiva track. I've really been into their music for a couple of years. Sadly the singer Sari Peltoniemi died this summer, the appeal of their songs is heavily on her writing.
Here's the opening lines:

"Kun menet käymään ulkona on loppukesän yö, kuulet kuinka outo tuuli huokaisee. Se on tuuli joka pyyhkii kuuta marsin lakaisee, kun se ylitsesi kulkee palelee."

Losing about 78% of the poetry it translates to

--When you go outside it's a late summer night, you hear the sigh of a strange wind. It's the wind that wipes, sweeps a moon of Mars, when it passes over you, it's freezing.--
A little note on the poeticism, "it's freezing" isn't "Palelee". That word is in some sense a passive form but implies a person feeling cold... she plays with the perspective, which builds into the hooks (not in the post) lyrics about loneliness/connection and cosmic insignificance. The word (palelee) also has a tinge of despair and when said on it's own is usually thought of as a whimper, this is enhanced by the lonely setting she's laid.--


The finishing lines on the other hand I find an inspiring bit of imagery. And is also how I feel writing silly little posts online

"Et ehkä loista tähden lailla, mutta tuikit pimeyteen ja toivot että joku näkee sen"

--You may not shine like a star, but twinkle into the darkness and hope that someone is there to see it--
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....theatrics...
Why I call it metal opera

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Noitalinna Huraa! - Avaruuslaiva

...You may not shine like a star, but twinkle into the darkness and hope that someone is there to see it--
That is a nice sentiment. I'll try to remember it for someone who might need to hear it someday.

Avaruuslaiva.... Spaceship? If this is not Finnish I'm gonna feel really stupid after posting this. In that song the language itself is musical. Apparently I have never heard it before, at least not so clearly well-spoken.

Funny that this should come up here because the 'hero' in the story that my sweetie is trying to write is Hungarian, and he has educated me about the history of the Finno-Ugric language group. He stresses that Hungarian and Finnish are very distantly related and one can never be confused with the other But again it sounds beautiful in that video.

So. Thinking about that part of the world brought one of my favorite female singer-songwriters to mind. Daughter of the leader of Swedish punk band Dag Vag (Day Road?) Lykke Li, born Li Lykke Timotej Zachrisson. Acoustic this time instead of an ear bashing techno remix like I've posted before.

Lykke Li - I Know Places

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Hazel O'Connor. Nice acoustic performance (and anything with alto sax is always a good listen.)




Sweet little words made for silence not talk
Young heart for love not heartache
Dark hair for catching the wind
Not to veil the sight of a cold world

Kiss while your lips are still red
While he's still silent
Rest while bosom is still untouched, unveiled
Hold another hand while the hand's still without a tool
Drown into eyes while they're still blind
Love while the night still hides the withering dawn.....

Love while the night still hides the withering dawn
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Old 11-28-2023, 01:40 AM   #32590 (permalink)
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You described it well, she wrote it for the language to do a lot of the melodic legwork. You've GOT TO listen to their one hit Pikkuveli (little brother) the Yölinja video of it is on youtube and is an idyllic, nostalgic masterpiece. (although ½ silence... which kind of adds to it) (Not the PMMP cover!! although props to them for bringing the song more radio play)
Here's the lyrics:

"Tumma on taivas ja pimennetyt puut
Kun matkustan pikkuveljen luota kaupunkiin
Olisin jo halunnut jäädä kotiin
Herätä aikaisin aamulla lumiauran kolahduksiin

Pysy aina pikkuveljenä ja lintuna, älä koskaan miehisty
En meidän taloon lisää aikuisia halua

Tiedän kyllä että undulaatit tapaavat
Miestenvessoissa turpiinsa saada
Mutta vielä pikkuveli lukee aamulla
Sängyssä mun kanssa, sängyssä mun kanssa sarjakuvia"

--Dusky is the sky and darkened the trees
when I travel from my little brother to the city
I had hoped to stay home
Wake up early to the clanks of the snowplow

Stay always as a little brother and a bird, never become a man
I don't want more adults in our house

I do know that budgies tend to get beat up in men's bathrooms
But still, in the morning, my little brother reads with me
In bed with me, in the bed with me comic books--

The bird bit likely referring to a nickname or at least his presence I think is one of those things that may actually translate in sentiment. The end part is painfully bittersweet... the repetition of the bed bit reads/sounds like a wondering thought of an inevitable loss of innocence and the eventual... sarjakuvia/comic books grounds the song back in a moment and time.

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Funny that this should come up here because the 'hero' in the story that my sweetie is trying to write is Hungarian, and he has educated me about the history of the Finno-Ugric language group. He stresses that Hungarian and Finnish are very distantly related and one can never be confused with the other But again it sounds beautiful in that video.
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That's wonderful to hear, I wish there'd been someone to push linguistics on me. I've only really learned to appreciate that depth of language with the recent social blackout.

The Lykke Li track was lovely. I'm only really familiar with I Follow Rivers, but will be changing that, if you have favorites from her I'm all ears. The chorus reminded me of a moment in a song by Hulda Huima - Yö On Musta (The Night Is Black) where she goes "...mut huomaan kuinka ruoho täällä kasvaa..." Another track with a superb video on youtube.
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