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SATCHMO 03-24-2009 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 621653)
Boris - Pink

Love this album!!!!!

khfreek 03-24-2009 05:13 PM

Relationship of Command - 4
Colors - 3
Deloused in the Comatorium - 3
Grace - 3

Interesting, 4 of my favorite albums are on top :)

lucifer_sam 03-24-2009 05:32 PM

You're terrible at math!

khfreek 03-24-2009 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 621670)
You're terrible at math!

That wasn't my 10 albums, lol. I was showing how many people picked each of those albums.

lucifer_sam 03-24-2009 05:49 PM

Oh, haha.

spark10036 03-24-2009 07:43 PM

best album to hear while you are dying: ( ) by Sigur Ros

Sneer 03-24-2009 07:47 PM

I'm glad it made your death all the more pleasant

Anteater 03-24-2009 07:53 PM

Why can't you ****ing indie kids quit bitching about how great ( ) is and go listen to something from before 2002?

spark10036 03-24-2009 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 621758)
I'm glad it made your death all the more pleasant

you are right...maybe I should cut the melodrama...

dac 03-24-2009 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 621760)
Why can't you ****ing indie kids quit bitching about how great ( ) is and go listen to something from before 2002?

How great what is? You didn't type anything. You just put a set of parentheses there.

spark10036 03-24-2009 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 621760)
Why can't you ****ing indie kids quit bitching about how great ( ) is and go listen to something from before 2002?

well how about stop living in the past and realize there is some great music being made right now?
we all love the classics, but get over it...

jackhammer 03-24-2009 08:10 PM

1. Coldplay - X & Y
2. Green Day - American Idiot
3. Pink Floyd - The Wall
4. Led Zeppelin - IV
5. Neutral Milk Hotel - In The Aeroplane Over The Sea
6. The Beatles - Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
7. Mark Ronson - Version
8. Nirvana - Nevermind
9. Radiohead - OK Computer
10. Beach Boys - Pet Sounds

You need to hear these to remind yourself how bland 'alternative' music can be.

khfreek 03-24-2009 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 621771)
1. Coldplay - X & Y
2. Green Day - American Idiot
3. Pink Floyd - The Wall
4. Led Zeppelin - IV
5. Neutral Milk Hotel - In The Aeroplane Over The Sea
6. The Beatles - Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
7. Mark Ronson - Version
8. Nirvana - Nevermind
9. Radiohead - OK Computer
10. Beach Boys - Pet Sounds

You need to hear these to remind yourself how bland 'alternative' music can be.

Classics next to travesties... DOES NOT COMPUTE

Sneer 03-24-2009 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 621771)
1. Coldplay - X & Y
2. Green Day - American Idiot
3. Pink Floyd - The Wall
4. Led Zeppelin - IV
5. Neutral Milk Hotel - In The Aeroplane Over The Sea
6. The Beatles - Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
7. Mark Ronson - Version
8. Nirvana - Nevermind
9. Radiohead - OK Computer
10. Beach Boys - Pet Sounds

You need to hear these to remind yourself how bland 'alternative' music can be.

I agree with a lot of what you say on this board... However, the inclusion of IV, Nevermind and OK Computer in this list is not amongst them. And i think ITAOTS get's an unfair bashing because of some stupid fanboys. It is, in my opinion, a very good album.

Anteater 03-24-2009 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by spark10036 (Post 621770)
well how about stop living in the past and realize there is some great music being made right now?
we all love the classics, but get over it...

1. You have no damn clue what I listen to and what I enjoy, so piss off.

2. If you are implying that listening to anything from before this decade is "living in the past", then you obviously don't appreciate what you listen to beyond a superficial level anyway. What are you going to do when everything you love now is considered outdated by everyone born past 1995 after they grow up?

And thirdly, its an unfortunate reality over here that every damn hipster who can't think outside their stupid scene within a hundred miles of me worship Sigur Ros, Death Cab For Cutie, Coldplay, etc. so I'll call things how I see them.

khfreek 03-24-2009 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 621788)
1. You have no damn clue what I listen to and what I enjoy, so piss off.

2. If you are implying that listening to anything from before this decade is "living in the past", then you obviously don't appreciate what you listen to beyond a superficial level anyway. What are you going to do when everything you love now is considered outdated by everyone born past 1995 after they grow up?

lol, you sort of missed his point. Saying that he and others listing Sigur Ros only listen to music post-2002 is as pointless as saying you live in the past.

jackhammer 03-24-2009 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 621784)
I agree with a lot of what you say on this board... However, the inclusion of IV, Nevermind and OK Computer in this list is not amongst them. And i think ITAOTS get's an unfair bashing because of some stupid fanboys. It is, in my opinion, a very good album.

I own a few of them and stick by my post. Nevermind bores me after a few tracks. IV is a rock lbum that if it came out in 88 and with a sugar coated topping would be album of the month ( Rock N roll? pfft). OK Computer is the ultimate zeitgeist album. Neutral Milk Hotel? Mark Hollis perefected angst ten years earlier but chose not be a wimp about it.

spark10036 03-24-2009 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 621788)
1. You have no damn clue what I listen to and what I enjoy, so piss off. My tastes touch, at-least to some degree, quite a few things, from 1920's swing jazz to your precious post-rock of today.

you were doing great until this point...

I actually listen to everything, except hip-hop and rap which are not my thing, I just don't like them, a lot of people do, but I don't...
I listen to everything. from Elvis to Muse, and from Nancy Sinatra to Ozzy Osbourne, and my favorite band is Pink Floyd btw. but that's not the point anw...I'm not trying here to make a point against your musical tastes, as far as I know, we may even like some of the same bands, but I'm however tired of people saying that today's music is worthless, because it isn't...

Anteater 03-24-2009 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by khfreek (Post 621792)
lol, you sort of missed his point. Saying that he and others listing Sigur Ros only listen to music post-2002 is as pointless as saying you live in the past.

Probably shouldn't have vented, but my old roommate said the exact damn thing "() is the album I want playing when I die" to me not even a week ago, and he's a poster child for scene children everywhere. = /

So yeah, deja vu's a bitch. :rofl:

spark10036: Modern music isn't worthless, its the fans who elevate one or two bands and ignore everyone else who isn't releasing some new single on a big label that are the problem. In either case, I apologize; shouldn't have assumed what and what you didn't listen to, I just jumped the gun a bit, lol!

Sneer 03-24-2009 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 621793)
I own a few of them and stick by my post. Nevermind bores me after a few tracks. IV is a rock lbum that if it came out in 88 and with a sugar coated topping would be album of the month ( Rock N roll? pfft). OK Computer is the ultimate zeitgeist album. Neutral Milk Hotel? Mark Hollis perefected angst ten years earlier but chose not be a wimp about it.

I admit if i want a Nirvana fix i turn to In Utero 9/10 but i still think Nevermind has a lot of merit. IV is one of Zep's most dynamic offerings, it brings so much more to the table than what you're suggesting and fuses many influences to create something brimmming with power and soul. OK Computer i think is transcendant of time and space. Alienation, stagnation and anxiety are unfortunately synonymous with the human condition and i think lyrically there are few better albums that explore this so succinctly. Plus i still think it is very relevant in todays social climate. As for Neutral Milk Hotel, i dont see what they and Talk Talk have in common? All i can say is i love the music.

dac 03-24-2009 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 621788)
And thirdly, its an unfortunate reality over here that every damn hipster who can't think outside their stupid scene within a hundred miles of me worship Sigur Ros, Death Cab For Cutie, Coldplay, etc. so I'll call things how I see them.

I don't understand how you are grouping Sigur Ros with those bands. Sigur Ros are (excluding 'Med Sud...') a band that is pushing boundaries and creating a unique sound. You are incredibly uninformed if you think they are on the same level as Coldplay.

Anteater 03-24-2009 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dac (Post 621816)
I don't understand how you are grouping Sigur Ros with those bands. Sigur Ros are (excluding 'Med Sud...') a band that is pushing boundaries and creating a unique sound. You are incredibly uninformed if you think they are on the same level as Coldplay.

I know they aren't on the same damn level as Coldplay dac meh' boy, my point is (if you know me at all by now) that these kids who normally listen to whatever has merchandise at Hot Topic connect to Sigur Ros (who admittedly have gotten quite a bit of exposure since 1999, which is how they've gained most of their audience in the first place, plus they have some kind of cross-over appeal) and then simply stop stepping outside their little boxes. And you know how I know this? Because I've MET and talked to a fair amount of people who pride themselves on it. :crazy:

Mojo 03-24-2009 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 621771)
1. Coldplay - X & Y
2. Green Day - American Idiot
3. Pink Floyd - The Wall
4. Led Zeppelin - IV
5. Neutral Milk Hotel - In The Aeroplane Over The Sea
6. The Beatles - Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
7. Mark Ronson - Version
8. Nirvana - Nevermind
9. Radiohead - OK Computer
10. Beach Boys - Pet Sounds

You need to hear these to remind yourself how bland 'alternative' music can be.

This is an interesting list, to say the least.

I think Green Day are a good example of how bland and unimaginative alot of, as you put it, 'alternative' bands can be but I actually wouldnt have chosen this album. I can't say I have listened to it since it came out though but I didnt think it was too bad.

I wouldnt say Sgt Peppers was bland either, however its not all its made out to be in the sense that that The Beatles bettered it on a number of occasions I feel.

I do disagree with Radiohead. Its arguable that they had better albums but I can still thoroughly enjoy OK Computer. I can understand some of the terms that get thrown at them ie they are a bit depressing etc but I never thought they were bland.

I'm surprised you included Floyd. You dont like The Wall then?

Do you not like The Beach Boys either?

spark10036 03-24-2009 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 621824)
I know they aren't on the same damn level as Coldplay dac meh' boy, my point is (if you know me at all by now) that these kids connect to Sigur Ros (who admittedly have gotten quite a bit of exposure since 1999, which is how they've gained most of their audience in the first place) and then simply stop stepping outside their little boxes. And you know how I know this? Because I've MET more than just one or two people who honestly think that way! :crazy:

I'm actually 24...:p:

jackhammer 03-24-2009 08:52 PM

NMH and Talk Talk make music that is about the baring of ones soul. One band whinges about it. One band assimilates it, the other broods upon it. I know who i want to listen to.

dac 03-24-2009 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 621824)
I know they aren't on the same damn level as Coldplay dac meh' boy, my point is (if you know me at all by now) that these kids connect to Sigur Ros (who admittedly have gotten quite a bit of exposure since 1999, which is how they've gained most of their audience in the first place) and then simply stop stepping outside their little boxes. And you know how I know this? Because I've MET more than just one or two people who honestly think that way! :crazy:

Yes but the album in question is one that is a step outside. How many bands can make an album consisting of nothing but scat singing and still appeal to such a wide audience?

Anteater 03-24-2009 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by spark10036 (Post 621829)
I'm actually 24...:p:

Then you're old enough to buy me a keg. :p:

Janszoon 03-24-2009 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mojopinuk (Post 621826)
I'm surprised you included Floyd. You dont like The Wall then?

Do you not like The Beach Boys either?

Those are the two that I can't get behind. The rest I either agree with or haven't heard.

Anteater 03-24-2009 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dac (Post 621835)
Yes but the album in question is one that is a step outside. How many bands can make an album consisting of nothing but scat singing and still appeal to such a wide audience?

Probably Radiohead, but they haven't done an album that would fit that bill quite yet. :tramp:

jackhammer 03-24-2009 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mojopinuk (Post 621826)
This is an interesting list, to say the least.

I think Green Day are a good example of how bland and unimaginative alot of, as you put it, 'alternative' bands can be but I actually wouldnt have chosen this album. I can't say I have listened to it since it came out though but I didnt think it was too bad.

I wouldnt say Sgt Peppers was bland either, however its not all its made out to be in the sense that that The Beatles bettered it on a number of occasions I feel.

I do disagree with Radiohead. Its arguable that they had better albums but I can still thoroughly enjoy OK Computer. I can understand some of the terms that get thrown at them ie they are a bit depressing etc but I never thought they were bland.

I'm surprised you included Floyd. You dont like The Wall then?

Do you not like The Beach Boys either?

The Wall is awful bar a few blessed moments. As for Radiohead. Listen to Archive.

dac 03-24-2009 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 621830)
NMH and Talk Talk make music that is about the baring of ones soul. One band whinges about it. One band assimilates it, the other broods upon it. I know who i want to listen to.

Not trying to be an ass because I have a tremendous amount of respect for you, but what you're saying is: "I don't like his voice/delivery." Because that's what I'm getting out of it.

Mojo 03-24-2009 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 621841)
Those are the two that I can't get behind. The rest I either agree with or haven't heard.

I dont like The Beach Boys. I can appreciate Pet Sounds is probably a fairly solid pop record but it certainly isnt for me.

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 621844)
The Wall is awful bar a few blessed moments. As for Radiohead. Listen to Archive.

I'm not a massive Floyd fan, I can pick a few holes in their discography even though I enjoy some of it but I just dont think I've ever seen you post anything negative about them until now.

I have listened to Archive and wasnt that bothered but I didnt really take any of it in so I would need to give them a fair go.

jackhammer 03-24-2009 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dac (Post 621845)
Not trying to be an ass because I have a tremendous amount of respect for you, but what you're saying is: "I don't like his voice/delivery." Because that's what I'm getting out of it.

Mark Hollis didnt make an album for over 10 years because he had a drug problem. He didn't pretend.

dac 03-24-2009 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 621842)
Probably Radiohead, but they haven't done an album that would fit that bill quite yet. :tramp:

AKA: No answer. To think that Sigur Ros are of the Hot Topic crowd is ridiculous and wrong. A prog fan such as yourself should appreciate a band that for 10 years didn't settle for the norm. If you want to attack 'Med Sud...' though, then go right ahead. It's pretty average.

jackhammer 03-24-2009 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mojopinuk (Post 621850)
I'm not a massive Floyd fan, I can pick a few holes in their discography even though I enjoy some of it but I just dont think I've ever seen you post anything negative about them until now.

I have listened to Archive and wasnt that bothered but I didnt really take any of it in so I would need to give them a fair go.

Exactly. if it was all solved within a few bars then we would all feck off to a happier life. I am not saying my choices are right. I just want to say that there is alternatives.

Mojo 03-24-2009 09:06 PM

I'm not saying they are wrong, just that they are interesting.

dac 03-24-2009 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 621852)
Mark Hollis didnt make an album for over 10 years because he had a drug problem. He didn't pretend.

So you're questioning the perceived emotion of ITAOTS?

Anteater 03-24-2009 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dac (Post 621854)
AKA: No answer. To think that Sigur Ros are of the Hot Topic crowd is ridiculous and wrong. A prog fan such as yourself should appreciate a band that for 10 years didn't settle for the norm. If you want to attack 'Med Sud...' though, then go right ahead. It's pretty average.

I don't think anything of the sort, and I do appreciate Sigur Ros as someone who appreciates anyone who tries to do something interesting. But its not my fault that people of the Hot Topic crowd have been latching onto them since Vanilla Sky came out in theaters.

Serious, it's not like you step in there and there are Sigur Ros coffee mugs available for purchase or anything, so that's why I think the whole thing is weird. = /

dac 03-24-2009 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 621864)
I don't think anything of the sort, and I do appreciate Sigur Ros as someone who appreciates anyone who tries to do something interesting. But its not my fault that people of the Hot Topic crowd have been latching onto them since Vanilla Sky came out in theaters.

Serious, it's not like you step in there and there are Sigur Ros coffee mugs available for purchase or anything, so that's why I think the whole thing is weird. = /

Maybe I'm completely missing something but you do realize that the Hot Topic crowd is the bunch that listens to Mindless Self Indulgence and Panic at the Awful.


@jackhammer - What Archive album would you recommend?

Anteater 03-24-2009 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dac (Post 621868)
Maybe I'm completely missing something but you do realize that the Hot Topic crowd is the bunch that listens to Mindless Self Indulgence and Panic at the Awful.


@jackhammer - What Archive album would you recommend?

Yes I do actually. Perhaps the Hot Topic people I've met who listen to Sigur Ros a lot are just anomalies then?

And...yeah, Archive are awesome.


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