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ElephantSack 04-01-2009 12:17 AM

I would appreciate a point in the direction of some low-fi delta blues, and maybe some more revolutionary hip hop in the vein of Immortal Technique. And maybe some decent early hardcore/punk acts.

Terrible Lizard 04-01-2009 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 626727)
I need someone with a lot of knowledge about Mexican music to introduce me to some stuff. I'm not a fan of the accordion-based Mexican music that sort of sounds like polka, but I am interested in two kinds of Mexican music: Stuff with more complex percussion along the lines of a lot of South American music (I think this stuff is called cumbia) and also the kind of Mexican folk music with the fiddle and the vocals that almost sound like yodeling. I'm not even sure of the names of these genres so it's been hard for me to find anything on my own. If anyone can help I'd be really grateful. :)

Mike Laure perhaps.

Janszoon 04-01-2009 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Terrible Lizard (Post 626781)
Mike Laure perhaps.

From what I'm reading about him he doesn't sound like exactly what I'm looking for but he does still sound like someone I might like regardless.

Terrible Lizard 04-01-2009 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 626792)
From what I'm reading about him he doesn't sound like exactly what I'm looking for but he does still sound like someone I might like regardless.

I'll look into it more tomorrow and send you some links. :)

Janszoon 04-01-2009 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terrible Lizard (Post 626797)
I'll look into it more tomorrow and send you some links. :)

Gracias! :)

Piss Me Off 04-01-2009 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dieselboy (Post 626675)
also Marcus Intalex's mix on Fabriclive .35 has been one of my favorites for a really long time. Very chill, and just packed with good songs all the way through.

Can't go wrong with Fabric mixes, in fact it was my first visit to Fabric that got me interested in D&B in the first place. I'll def check out Dieselboy, dark is all good and must be alright if it's deserving of a username!

Demonoid 04-01-2009 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 626727)
I need someone with a lot of knowledge about Mexican music to introduce me to some stuff. I'm not a fan of the accordion-based Mexican music that sort of sounds like polka, but I am interested in two kinds of Mexican music: Stuff with more complex percussion along the lines of a lot of South American music (I think this stuff is called cumbia) and also the kind of Mexican folk music with the fiddle and the vocals that almost sound like yodeling. I'm not even sure of the names of these genres so it's been hard for me to find anything on my own. If anyone can help I'd be really grateful. :)

I'm no expert, but anyways, I suppose this one is not exactly from "Mexico" but give it a try -

BABE(B)LOGUE: The Roots of Chicha - Psychedelic Cumbias from Peru (2007)

I'm not sure whether that's what you are after as I have no idea what's 'cumbia'. It just had the word and I happened to remember :laughing:.

Or maybe something like this?

(Ignore the accordion pic. I'm sure you'll get through it :laughing:. I find the accordion to be a bit cheesy, but that wasn't half bad. And I *think* it has some complex-tribal sort of drumming?)


Edit: And here's a track from the compilation without any vocals

YouTube - juaneco y su combo - me robaron mi runa mula

Bulldog 04-01-2009 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dac (Post 626363)
I've been working my way into trip hop, and picking up some staples like Portishead and Massive Attack. What are some of the off the trail records worth going for?

Some albums you might like;

Morcheeba - Big Calm
Thievery Corporation - The Mirror Conspiracy
UNKLE - Psyence Fiction
Faithless - Reverance
Tricky - Maxinquaye

^ Should all be easy enough to find. If you don't have them already of course.

coryallen2 04-01-2009 06:17 AM

where should i start to get more indepth for eltronica...i know who MGMT is is there any other cool ones?

RiotGod 04-01-2009 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by coryallen2 (Post 626864)
where should i start to get more indepth for eltronica...i know who MGMT is is there any other cool ones?

Ever listen to Kraftwerk -- or Jean Michel Jarre? Try Tomita -- these are some artists pre-date today's form of "electronica"

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bulldog (Post 626861)
Some albums you might like;

Morcheeba - Big Calm
Thievery Corporation - The Mirror Conspiracy
UNKLE - Psyence Fiction
Faithless - Reverance
Tricky - Maxinquaye

^ Should all be easy enough to find. If you don't have them already of course.

ChungKing is good too.

coryallen2 04-01-2009 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiotGod (Post 626870)
Ever listen to Kraftwerk -- or Jean Michel Jarre? Try Tomita -- these are some artists pre-date today's form of "electronica"


thanks dude

Janszoon 04-01-2009 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonoid (Post 626851)
I'm no expert, but anyways, I suppose this one is not exactly from "Mexico" but give it a try -

BABE(B)LOGUE: The Roots of Chicha - Psychedelic Cumbias from Peru (2007)

I'm not sure whether that's what you are after as I have no idea what's 'cumbia'. It just had the word and I happened to remember :laughing:.

Or maybe something like this?

(Ignore the accordion pic. I'm sure you'll get through it :laughing:. I find the accordion to be a bit cheesy, but that wasn't half bad. And I *think* it has some complex-tribal sort of drumming?)


Edit: And here's a track from the compilation without any vocals

YouTube - juaneco y su combo - me robaron mi runa mula

Heh. Thanks for the suggestions but I actually already own an El Gran Silencio album (it's a pretty good album but the accordion does get old after a while) as well as that "Roots of Chicha" disc. Based on what I've heard I think cumbias are really different depending what their country of origin is and I think the type of cumbia I'm looking for is specifically Mexican. As far as the other style of Mexican music I'm looking for goes (the style with the yodeling and fiddle), you may be one of the few people on here familiar with the one good example of it that I know by name. Do you have the Cafe Tacuba album Avalanche de Exitos? If you do, the song "Ojala Que Llueva Cafe" is the exact style of music I'm looking for.

LoathsomePete 04-01-2009 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 626940)
Heh. Thanks for the suggestions but I actually already own an El Gran Silencio album (it's a pretty good album but the accordion does get old after a while) as well as that "Roots of Chicha" disc. Based on what I've heard I think cumbias are really different depending what their country of origin is and I think the type of cumbia I'm looking for is specifically Mexican. As far as the other style of Mexican music I'm looking for goes (the style with the yodeling and fiddle), you may be one of the few people on here familiar with the one good example of it that I know by name. Do you have the Cafe Tacuba album Avalanche de Exitos? If you do, the song "Ojala Que Llueva Cafe" is the exact style of music I'm looking for.

Janzoon I would also recommend Rodgrio y Gabriela, they do flamenco style music that seriously makes me hard.



Yes that is Orion, the Metallica song.

Janszoon 04-01-2009 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pobodys_Nerfect (Post 626941)
Janzoon I would also recommend Rodgrio y Gabriela, they do flamenco style music that seriously makes me hard.



Yes that is Orion, the Metallica song.

Not what I was looking for at all but good stuff regardless. I think I've actually heard these two somewhere before.

Guybrush 04-01-2009 11:41 AM

RIO yo. RIO? Yo man. RIO yo.

I have like Univers Zero and Far Corner .. Any other essentials someone could recommend?

Quote:

Originally Posted by gunnels (Post 626430)
The only jazz album I own is Cosmos by Sun Ra

Quote:

Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 626641)
I recently stumbled upon a good jazz/blues station here and they play alot of good stuff but don't offer a tracklist so i rarely know what they are playing. Any reco's would be nice.

I'm not really into jazz .. I like it a lot, but it's not what I play most. Also, just asking for jazz is like asking for recommendations on metal. You don't know if they want Dio or Korpiklaani. Anyways!

I think an easy entry into jazz is to check out the cream from last decades swing revival. Squirrel Nut Zippers is my favourite of the bunch and their album "Perennial Favorites" is excellent. I also wrote a review on it in my journal. I have one album by Big Bad Voodoo Daddy called "Americana Deluxe" and although it's not as diverse, it's also good.



This is not the track I wanted to show, but the selection off youtube is not really extensive. It's Squirrel Nut Zippers opening track from Perennial Favorites (released in 1997).


If you like gypsy jazz reminiscent of old Django Reinhardt, I can recommend Joe Pass album "For Django" (1964) or Bireli Lagrene's "Gipsy Project & Friends" (2002).



The video above shows Bireli and his gang playing Django's jazz standard, Minor Swing.


If you like more trippy electronica jazz with a bit of drum n bass and other stuff thrown in, then you could have a look at Jaga Jazzist from Norway or perhaps Kyoto Jazz Massive from Japan.



The video above shows Jaga Jazzist song Animal Chin from their 2001 album "A Livingroom Hush" which got good reviews in Norway.


If you want more prog-jazz fusion stuff, I think you should check out the Canterbury scene's legendary Soft Machine. The following video is from the last half of the last track on their album "Third" from 1970.




Guys like Louis Armstrong, Miles Davis, Charlie Parker, Herbie Han**** or John Coltrane shouldn't need an introduction since they are all still immensely popular. I have Coltrane's "A Love Supreme" from 1965 and I like it a lot. It's also critically acclaimed. "Miles Ahead" (1957) and "Kind of Blue" (1957) by Miles Davis are awesome .. I also got Bitches Brew on a recommendation here, but I've yet to listen to it. It's also easy to get box sets from all these artists.



In the youtube-vid, you can see Miles Davis and John Coltrane together playing "So What", the opening track on "Kind of Blue".


If you think you might like avant-garde jazz, try Bill Frisell. The following vid shows him playing Shenandoah which is from his 1999 album "Good Dog, Happy Man" ..




Tired of writing now :(

dac 04-01-2009 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bulldog (Post 626861)
Some albums you might like;

Morcheeba - Big Calm
Thievery Corporation - The Mirror Conspiracy
UNKLE - Psyence Fiction
Faithless - Reverance
Tricky - Maxinquaye

^ Should all be easy enough to find. If you don't have them already of course.

Yeah I have Maxinquaye and fecking love it. Thanks.

jackhammer 04-01-2009 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dac (Post 626979)
Yeah I have Maxinquaye and fecking love it. Thanks.

You didn't reply to my Trip Hop reccos. You are on my shit list now :(

Blue 04-01-2009 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 627052)
You didn't reply to my Trip Hop reccos. You are on my shit list now :(

Did you have a chance to listen to the opera recommendations I put up?

jackhammer 04-01-2009 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue (Post 627204)
Did you have a chance to listen to the opera recommendations I put up?

I sure did but I have to admit to be enamoured with female voices in opera. Thanks anyway.

Terrible Lizard 04-01-2009 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 627303)
I sure did but I have to admit to be enamoured with female voices in opera. Thanks anyway.

Diamanda Galas doesn't count. :laughing:

crash_override 04-01-2009 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tore (Post 626963)
RIO yo. RIO? Yo man. RIO yo.

I have like Univers Zero and Far Corner .. Any other essentials someone could recommend?





I'm not really into jazz .. I like it a lot, but it's not what I play most. Also, just asking for jazz is like asking for recommendations on metal. You don't know if they want Dio or Korpiklaani. Anyways!

I think an easy entry into jazz is to check out the cream from last decades swing revival. Squirrel Nut Zippers is my favourite of the bunch and their album "Perennial Favorites" is excellent. I also wrote a review on it in my journal. I have one album by Big Bad Voodoo Daddy called "Americana Deluxe" and although it's not as diverse, it's also good.



This is not the track I wanted to show, but the selection off youtube is not really extensive. It's Squirrel Nut Zippers opening track from Perennial Favorites (released in 1997).


If you like gypsy jazz reminiscent of old Django Reinhardt, I can recommend Joe Pass album "For Django" (1964) or Bireli Lagrene's "Gipsy Project & Friends" (2002).



The video above shows Bireli and his gang playing Django's jazz standard, Minor Swing.


If you like more trippy electronica jazz with a bit of drum n bass and other stuff thrown in, then you could have a look at Jaga Jazzist from Norway or perhaps Kyoto Jazz Massive from Japan.



The video above shows Jaga Jazzist song Animal Chin from their 2001 album "A Livingroom Hush" which got good reviews in Norway.


If you want more prog-jazz fusion stuff, I think you should check out the Canterbury scene's legendary Soft Machine. The following video is from the last half of the last track on their album "Third" from 1970.




Guys like Louis Armstrong, Miles Davis, Charlie Parker, Herbie Han**** or John Coltrane shouldn't need an introduction since they are all still immensely popular. I have Coltrane's "A Love Supreme" from 1965 and I like it a lot. It's also critically acclaimed. "Miles Ahead" (1957) and "Kind of Blue" (1957) by Miles Davis are awesome .. I also got Bitches Brew on a recommendation here, but I've yet to listen to it. It's also easy to get box sets from all these artists.



In the youtube-vid, you can see Miles Davis and John Coltrane together playing "So What", the opening track on "Kind of Blue".


If you think you might like avant-garde jazz, try Bill Frisell. The following vid shows him playing Shenandoah which is from his 1999 album "Good Dog, Happy Man" ..




Tired of writing now :(

Hey thanks for the effort but not really what im looking for. The quote you posted from me was a little misleading, and I apologize. I had posted earlier in the thread with a better explanation of what I was seeking.

Mainly i'm looking for good Blues Rock/Electric Blues artists along the lines of Joe Bonamossa etc.

Also, Newer (90's-2000's) Jazz/Smooth jazz with a good bass driven sound. Looking for stuff with good fretless play, or something with a solid rhythm section in general.

Terrible Lizard 04-01-2009 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 627676)
Hey thanks for the effort but not really what im looking for. The quote you posted from me was a little misleading, and I apologize. I had posted earlier in the thread with a better explanation of what I was seeking.

Mainly i'm looking for good Blues Rock/Electric Blues artists along the lines of Joe Bonamossa etc.

Also, Newer (90's-2000's) Jazz/Smooth jazz with a good bass driven sound. Looking for stuff with good fretless play, or something with a solid rhythm section in general.

Otis Rush, Magic Slim, and Eddie Kirkland for blues.
Keith Jarret and Jean Luc Ponty for the jazz.

Husky McDump 04-01-2009 11:30 PM

always looking for new jazz/blues

seeking some relaxing symphony music

also i've been looking for a few out side the box indie bands. kinda pushing the genres limits you could say.

any suggestions?
=D

Blue 04-01-2009 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emsanders (Post 627702)
always looking for new jazz/blues

seeking some relaxing symphony music

also i've been looking for a few out side the box indie bands. kinda pushing the genres limits you could say.

any suggestions?
=D

I have a great one for relaxing symphony music, though it's almost like ambient symphonic music at times, even though it does build to a climax of sorts. The song is titled Fordlandia from Johann Johannsson's most recent album, Fordlandia. You can hear it at his myspace. The other songs are a bit different, but Fordlandia just blew me completely away. Check it out...

Johann Johannsson on MySpace Music - Free Streaming MP3s, Pictures & Music Downloads

Demonoid 04-02-2009 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tore (Post 626963)
RIO yo. RIO? Yo man. RIO yo.
I have like Univers Zero and Far Corner .. Any other essentials someone could recommend?

http://www.musicbanter.com/classic-r...tf-corner.html

I didn't update it yet, but I'm hoping to soon!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 626940)
Heh. Thanks for the suggestions but I actually already own an El Gran Silencio album (it's a pretty good album but the accordion does get old after a while) as well as that "Roots of Chicha" disc. Based on what I've heard I think cumbias are really different depending what their country of origin is and I think the type of cumbia I'm looking for is specifically Mexican. As far as the other style of Mexican music I'm looking for goes (the style with the yodeling and fiddle), you may be one of the few people on here familiar with the one good example of it that I know by name. Do you have the Cafe Tacuba album Avalanche de Exitos? If you do, the song "Ojala Que Llueva Cafe" is the exact style of music I'm looking for.

I do have all of their stuff (Cafe Tacuba) but haven't listened to like half of it at least. I'll listen to that song and get back here in a bit.

jackhammer 04-10-2009 12:29 PM

Still have no Opera :(

gunnels 04-10-2009 03:22 PM

Whoops, I forgot about this threads' existance.
A late thank you to Pobody and Tor, I will definately check those guys out! :)

Zer0 04-10-2009 03:48 PM

A list of essential Dream Pop albums plz??

anticipation 04-10-2009 03:52 PM

probably not essential, but you should definately check out Candy Claws' "In the Dream of the Sea Life"

jackhammer 04-10-2009 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zero1986 (Post 634953)
A list of essential Dream Pop albums plz??

i'm no expert but definitely get some:

Mazzy Star
This Mortal Coil
Cocteau Twins
Cranes
Lush

The last three dip a little into shoegaze but the first two for sure. The only Mazzy Star album I have is 'She Hangs Brightly' but This Mortal Coil I have 3 albums of which Filigree & Shadow is probably the best. Holler if you need ups.

Piss Me Off 04-10-2009 04:50 PM

I back up Mazzy Star, So Tonight That I May See is gorgeous.

Antonio 04-10-2009 05:46 PM

anyone want to recommend me any good electronic music? sorry if i'm not saying it right, i'm not so knowledgable about that genre

Piss Me Off 04-10-2009 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 635044)
anyone want to recommend me any good electronic music? sorry if i'm not saying it right, i'm not so knowledgable about that genre

It's a pretty broad genre, any moods you're into?

The one album i would always recommend is DJ Shadow - Endtroducing.

Antonio 04-10-2009 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piss Me Off (Post 635052)
It's a pretty broad genre, any moods you're into?

The one album i would always recommend is DJ Shadow - Endtroducing.

idk, anything really as long as it isn't boring, maybe some upbeat stuff

Piss Me Off 04-10-2009 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 635071)
idk, anything really as long as it isn't boring, maybe some upbeat stuff

In that case, Mr Scruff - Keep It Unreal


Antonio 04-10-2009 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piss Me Off (Post 635073)
In that case, Mr Scruff - Keep It Unreal


i enjoed that, thanks. i'll check out some more of that artist

Zer0 04-12-2009 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 635071)
idk, anything really as long as it isn't boring, maybe some upbeat stuff

If you want a dose of upbeat electro-pop check out CSS, esp their self-titled. They always get me going :)

DeepDishBedPan 04-12-2009 06:51 PM

I'm sort of trying to get into blues a little more, but I'm sort of anal about good production value. I'm familiar with all the classics, but I'm looking for some fresh rock/blues mix I haven't heard. To give you an idea of my taste, a couple of my favorite rock/blue albums are

Mycology An Anthology by Allman Brothhers
Texas Flood by Stevie Ray Vaughan

jackhammer 04-12-2009 06:53 PM

Jonny Lang would be be right up your street I think.

GravitySlips 04-12-2009 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piss Me Off (Post 635004)
I back up Mazzy Star, So Tonight That I May See is gorgeous.

indeed, this is definitely my fav Mazzy Star. "Into Dust" is one of my favourite songs ever, I was playing it recently and the person I was with commented that apparently it's been on the OC. Not even this can detract from my love for this song!


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