Janszoon

For the record I'm not really a fan of Radiohead or Nirvana, but come on, Radiohead have pushed way more boundaries than Nirvana ever did.

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Surell

Inorite?

And I think that Radiohead pushed (mainly on OK Computer and Kid A)- and are still pushing- boundaries more than Nirvana did.

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How do you define pushing boundaries?

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boo boo

New prog is a term used for modern bands who combine prog and alternative rock influences.

Mars Volta, Coheed and Cambria, Muse and Oceansize for example.

Yeah but neither are you. I know you think otherwise.

I'd love for you to provide me a band that sounds like Radiohead, before Radiohead, that'll be good for a laugh.

They have tested their fanbase and mainstream appeal time and time again with the most drastic style changes. I'd love to see how you twist that into them being just a generic rock band who only conform to popular trends.

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Janszoon

Experimenting, trying new things, not making the expected moves.

How do you define pushing boundaries? And in what way did Nirvana do so more than Radiohead? That's the crux of the issue here. I'm not claiming that Radiohead are the most experimental, most boundary pushing band ever. All I'm saying is they are much more so than Nirvana. I'm pretty curious about what reasons you have for proposing the reverse.

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TumorAttitude

Ahkay, please explain how straight edgers are racist.

dac

I know, I just wanted to make fun of Nu Metal's cliche spelling.

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Comus

Nirvana never really tried to make their music accessible to large audiences. Everything they did was on a whim. Cobain wanted to do a pop song, they did a pop song, Cobain wanted to do something loud and obnoxious, they did something loud and obnoxious. Nirvana will always have Endless, Nameless and that gallons one. What Nirvana did was make honest music, which at the time pushed the envelope straight out of the 80's. The era known for the manufactured sound. The era where "metal" bands had to include a ballad to sell records.

Radiohead however have just continued making the same boring crap over and over. Sure they've changed in parts, don't say I haven't endured their rubbish. But challenging? Yeah maybe for someone who has listened to nothing but Britney Spears. Radiohead are good at what they're good at. Of course they are, or they wouldn't have so many fans. But what they're good at is making shitty pop music that pretends to not be shitty pop music. They're this generation's Beatles. They're what you listen to if you want to be different, but don't have the patience to enjoy proper music. Or the band that you can feel safe in listening to without ruining your reputation.

Next time anyone calls radiohead experimental or pushing the boundaries. Listen to them again. Don't do anything, go into an empty room, and listen to them, and then try to pinpoint what's so expe... oh, you fell asleep.

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Surell

Wanna know how I know that's wrong? That's what I do to get into their music. And guess what? It works!

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Comus

Yes, but I'm also pretty sure you like Lil'Wayne.

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