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Expletive Deleted · 07-02-2006, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Reznorslave

Now who's being a tool?

OOOOOH SHIT! You just got PWNED, Kid!

right-track · 07-02-2006, 10:52 AM

Just a quick reminder of what this thread is all about...

"Sick of people telling you what to think ?
Bored of people telling you whats good ?
Had enough of people flaming you because you don`t think the same?

Well let it all out here , post any of your opinions that may be consdered 'against the grain' here , be controversial , be bold , don`t let people tell you your opinion is wrong. Stick to your guns & don`t be afraid to rustle a few feathers." Urban Hatemonger.

Don't spoil it with petty name calling.

Expletive Deleted · 07-02-2006, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by right-track

Just a quick reminder of what this thread is all about...

"Sick of people telling you what to think ?
Bored of people telling you whats good ?
Had enough of people flaming you because you don`t think the same?

Well let it all out here , post any of your opinions that may be consdered 'against the grain' here , be controversial , be bold , don`t let people tell you your opinion is wrong. Stick to your guns & don`t be afraid to rustle a few feathers." Urban Hatemonger.

Don't spoil it with petty name calling.

Even if your opinion is wrong and doesn't just go against the grain, it goes against fact?

Someone earlier said Emo wasn't a genre, but a trend. Emo isn't an opinion, it's a fact that Emo is a genre (and one that goes deeper than what's on MTV).

right-track · 07-02-2006, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Expletive Deleted

Even if your opinion is wrong and doesn't just go against the grain, it goes against fact?

Someone earlier said Emo wasn't a genre, but a trend. Emo isn't an opinion, it's a fact that Emo is a genre (and one that goes deeper than what's on MTV).

This thread was always going to be the cause of a clash of opinions.
Which is good, providing it's limited to debate and doesn't degenerate into mindless arguing.

Got a problem with someones opinion on emo being a genre or not...back it up and educate them.

Sound Devastation · 07-02-2006, 11:54 AM

the whole point of this thread is surely to say things that we all know are gonna piss everyone off?

anyway.. a few of my own opinions:

99% of all bands are ****e. this spans all genres equally.

i dont beleive a person is a music fan unless they have spent time and effort into delving deep into various genres to find their ideal bands, as well as having a interest in exploring other genres.

its impossible to dislike a whole genre, as its impossible to hear a whole genre. your comments about disliking trumpets is invalid as not all jazz uses trumpets... etc.

the best music is whats being made today. how can it not be when it builds and expands on what was made in the past?

the mp3 will lead to the death of music as an art form. aiding in this is the big 4 major labels who should not be given money at all costs.

if you hear a song on the radio or on tv, its pop.

genres are important and interesting.

opinions cant be wrong when stated as opinions.. but when they are stated as fact they can justifiably be falsified.

oh and Beat yr own KID is probably the most interesting poster ive seen on this forum.

Expletive Deleted · 07-02-2006, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Sound Devastation

the mp3 will lead to the death of music as an art form.

Can I ask how?

Sound Devastation · 07-02-2006, 12:07 PM

because people wont care about it.... music will be reduced to 3 minutes snippits designed to keep the incresingly-easily-distracted kids happy while they sit in the car for 5 mins on their way to school.

albums are made as albums to be enjoyed in full quality, full concentration, with accompanying visual representation.. and the knowledge that you have paid for this pleasure and you physically own it - and you appreciate it.

you wouldnt say you 'owned' or even properly seen a peice of art such as a painting, if all you had was a .jpg would you?

Urban Hat€monger ? · 07-02-2006, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sound Devastation

its impossible to dislike a whole genre, as its impossible to hear a whole genre. your comments about disliking trumpets is invalid as not all jazz uses trumpets... etc.

You`re missing the point slightly , that was just a throwaway example , the point is if you hate the basis that genre is based on why would you listen to any of it?

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Originally Posted by Sound Devastation

the best music is whats being made today. how can it not be when it builds and expands on what was made in the past?

Apart from when it`s either a watered down version of what has come before or is a blatent copy , or just being experimental for the sake of being experimental without actually being any good.

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Originally Posted by Sound Devastation

the mp3 will lead to the death of music as an art form. aiding in this is the big 4 major labels who should not be given money at all costs.

Sorry thats crap , the last thing I look at when I buy an album is the label it comes out on.I`m sure thats the same for most people. If they like it they`ll buy it , if they don`t they won`t.MP3`s get music out to a wider audience online without the record companies you despise so much , so why is it killing it as an artform?

Sound Devastation · 07-02-2006, 12:18 PM

i explained above, and anyway... theyre all my opinions formed in my unarguably biased and opinionated mind, and thats what this thread was for? i dont expect people to understant my thoughts on music anyway, as few understand my taste. cant say i understand any body elses either but there you go.

Expletive Deleted · 07-02-2006, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sound Devastation

because people wont care about it.... music will be reduced to 3 minutes snippits designed to keep the incresingly-easily-distracted kids happy while they sit in the car for 5 mins on their way to school.

Like many people these days really care about music anyway. And you can just as easily skip through a CD.

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albums are made as albums to be enjoyed in full quality, full concentration, with accompanying visual representation.. and the knowledge that you have paid for this pleasure and you physically own it - and you appreciate it.

I can listen to an album on my computer or my iPod just as easily as I can listen to it on record or CD. And accompanying visual representation, full concentration? Oh please, how often do you listen to an album while looking at the sleeve or the CD case? Do you never put on music just to play in the background? I highly doubt anyone here always puts on an album with the intention of paying complete attention to it.

Besides that, whose to say artists won't start making albums differently, then?

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you wouldnt say you 'owned' or even properly seen a peice of art such as a painting, if all you had was a .jpg would you?

That's a horrible analogy. Unless it's a painting or some other piece of art that's made to be viewed that way, then art can be viewed in whatever medium you see fit. Just like you can listen to music however you want.

07-02-2006, 11:54 AM	#345 (permalink)
Sound Devastation Music Addict Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 728	the whole point of this thread is surely to say things that we all know are gonna piss everyone off? anyway.. a few of my own opinions: 99% of all bands are **e. this spans all genres equally. i dont beleive a person is a music fan unless they have spent time and effort into delving deep into various genres to find their ideal bands, as well as having a interest in exploring other genres. its impossible to dislike a whole genre, as its impossible to hear a whole genre. your comments about disliking trumpets is invalid as not all jazz uses trumpets... etc. the best music is whats being made today. how can it not be when it builds and expands on what was made in the past? the mp3 will lead to the death of music as an art form. aiding in this is the big 4 major labels who should not be given money at all costs. if you hear a song on the radio or on tv, its pop. genres are important and interesting. opinions cant be wrong when stated as opinions.. but when they are stated as fact they can justifiably be falsified. oh and Beat yr own KID is probably the most interesting poster ive seen on this forum. __________________ Out soon... AMENRA - Mass III 2xLP [stunning vinyl release of the belgian sludgecore giants epic 06 album] FALL OF EFRAFA - Owsla & Elil CD&LP [British crust/doom/post-metal band Fall of Efrafa deliver part two (Elil) on their dark conceptual trilogy. Part one (Owsla) will also be re-released for the first time in the UK] * visit... Sound Devastation Records website**

07-02-2006, 12:07 PM	#347 (permalink)
Sound Devastation Music Addict Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 728	because people wont care about it.... music will be reduced to 3 minutes snippits designed to keep the incresingly-easily-distracted kids happy while they sit in the car for 5 mins on their way to school. albums are made as albums to be enjoyed in full quality, full concentration, with accompanying visual representation.. and the knowledge that you have paid for this pleasure and you physically own it - and you appreciate it. you wouldnt say you 'owned' or even properly seen a peice of art such as a painting, if all you had was a .jpg would you? __________________ Out soon... AMENRA - Mass III 2xLP [stunning vinyl release of the belgian sludgecore giants epic 06 album] FALL OF EFRAFA - Owsla & Elil CD&LP [British crust/doom/post-metal band Fall of Efrafa deliver part two (Elil) on their dark conceptual trilogy. Part one (Owsla) will also be re-released for the first time in the UK] *** visit... Sound Devastation Records website**

07-02-2006, 12:18 PM	#349 (permalink)
Sound Devastation Music Addict Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 728	i explained above, and anyway... theyre all my opinions formed in my unarguably biased and opinionated mind, and thats what this thread was for? i dont expect people to understant my thoughts on music anyway, as few understand my taste. cant say i understand any body elses either but there you go. __________________ Out soon... AMENRA - Mass III 2xLP [stunning vinyl release of the belgian sludgecore giants epic 06 album] FALL OF EFRAFA - Owsla & Elil CD&LP [British crust/doom/post-metal band Fall of Efrafa deliver part two (Elil) on their dark conceptual trilogy. Part one (Owsla) will also be re-released for the first time in the UK] *** visit... Sound Devastation Records website**

07-02-2006, 10:52 AM	#342 (permalink)
right-track Atchin' Akai Join Date: May 2005 Location: Unamerica Posts: 8,723	Just a quick reminder of what this thread is all about... "Sick of people telling you what to think ? Bored of people telling you whats good ? Had enough of people flaming you because you don`t think the same? Well let it all out here , post any of your opinions that may be consdered 'against the grain' here , be controversial , be bold , don`t let people tell you your opinion is wrong. Stick to your guns & don`t be afraid to rustle a few feathers." Urban Hatemonger. Don't spoil it with petty name calling.