Anti-Pop or Anti-metal?
 

To be frank, I am a anti-pop guy. I enjoy classical, folk, jazz, country, rock (mainly 60s-70s), but never pop. Because I cannot stand the pollution of brainless commercial crappy sound manufactured by BOYS or hot teenage idols. I think it is disgusting. And the so-called entrainment industry was, and is brain-washing our youth.
Rock is dead, said the Doors. I may add that metal is dead also. It´s true nowadays we can find some great artists or bands. However almost everything we hear now are controlled by international tycoon companies. Money is king.
I am sorry if it sounds ridiculous or radical. I have no intention of interfering other people ś affairs. Just feel like to express my feelings. So what´s your real feeling?

P.S.
Bob Dylan is my all-time favorite.

My feeling is that that's not true at all. Now, more than in the past 20 years probably, music is less controlled by tycoons because anyone can make a song and post it on myspace or cdbaby. There's more stuff to search through these days which makes it a lot harder to find good music, but it's still there. I don't know how popular independent labels were back in the 80s or 90s, but now labels like the whole Beggar's Banquet group, Sub Pop, Jagjaguwar, and tons of others seem to be giving the major labels a run for there money.

I don't think any type of music is really dead, it's just a lot of stuff has already been done so it gets a bit harder to do something new and unique. That's my take, anyway.

Firstly i am neither.

To be anti pop, in my opinion, means you need to close pretty much every avenue you have for hearing music outside of the internet and your own collection.

Im only 25 and it's only within the last 10 years that i have started to really get into metal. It at least seems to someone like me that there was far more metal worth listening to in the 80's and even the 90's than there is now but that is just one opinion. A lot of metal now, especially thrash, sounds like recycled attempts at something that was done 20 years ago and done much better 20 years ago aswell most of the time.

I will not however say that metal is dead. Good, new, metal bands are cropping up all the time and will continue to do so, im just not hearing as many as i would like to.

You know, you may find that that money is king if you're listening to the radio or watching music channels or anything that is going to limit your horizons to something commercial that requires said money to fund that particular avenue but branch out a little, hit the internet, you may even find that money isnt as important as it used to be.

Generally, metal has gotten to produce more self-indulgent music over the years. Also, new, ignorant breeds of fans for the genre always pop up, looking for ways to make their taste seem great by connecting their favorite metal artists to various pop culture references or whatnot to make them seem more intelligent. I don't not like metal, but I hate the way it impacts a populous of its fans to act undeservingly like they know their facts.

I wouldn't go against either, but as for the culture, I am not a fan of the general stereotypical metalhead. Pop fans I can understand. But then again, this is just a stereotype, and I'm sure not all metalheads are like that.

"New ignorant breeds of fans for the genre always pop up, looking for ways to make their taste seem great by connecting their favourite artists to various pop culture references or whatnot to make them seem more intelligent"

Do you mind explaining this a little more? I'm not arguing with you, or at least not yet, because i may just not understand your point here but most of the metal fans i know would probably be the complete opposite of this.

Utter garbage.

Kids just want to sing & dance along to a nice tune. Why the hell would your average 8 year old want to listen to Bob Dylan or Jazz.

Pop is the perfect gateway to music, It never did me any harm.

Im not anti-anything, cause genres cannot be generalized like that. Theres quality in every genre. Morrissey is classified as 'pop' by alot of people, and he's probably one of the most influental artists ever.

Pop music does get a lot of crap but there are some good non commercial pop bands. The Vaselines, Pavement, and most recently MGMT.

Yeah there's pop and then there's top 40. There's a lot of good pop out there.

Top 40 = pop
pop ≠ top 40

Well I don't think Pavement were ever popular by the standards set by most of the artists who are marketed as "pop," nor is their music super-accessible, a characteristic of most popular music. No, I wouldn't call them pop at all. Hell, they're almost posterboys for the 90s alternative movement.

congratulations. you've recognized the painfully obvious of listening to mainstream media over the last 25+ years. welcome to the choir. please stop preaching.

i'm more like anti-shitty music.

Plenty of brilliant groups working under the pop banner-Beatles,Kinks,Buzz****s,T Rex.Bowie,The Human League,Depeche Mode,Jellyfish,Prince,Blur,Pet Shop Boys to name just a few.

I'm more of the anti-pop-"bands"-trying-to-label-themselves-as-rock guy.
All they do is teach those little kids and big kids that that was what rock was and is, and then they go labeling themselves as "rockstars" when they go buy some pink karaoke machine with Kevin Jonas' face stamped all over it.

i agree

I look at them a Indie Pop. I know thatwhen I say Pop it essentially means popular but they are hard to classify and I find them to go best with Indie Pop. Wouldn't call them posterboys though.

There's pop that I love, and there is pop that I hate. Same goes for metal. No need to generalize, especially for such broad types of music. Pop can mean anything from the boring, predictable stuff you hear on the radio, to more original and interesting stuff.

I agree. However I can't talk as I am a sucker for Lady Gaga and mainstream dance music. But that's not the main kind of music I'm into so it doesn't worry me to admit that.

:bowdown: Thats how i feel, i dont hate pop music in general,
just the people who label themselves as something they're not.

I hated Lady Ga Ga until I started liking her. Now I can't get her blasted songs out of my head.

I don't think Pop music sucks at all:

Pop music DOESN'T have to suck you know! - Rate Your Music

It's how most people start off in appreciating music anyhow. In fact what a dumb frickin' thread, why am I replying?

I'm an antipop gal myself. :D

I hate pop quite a bit tbh. At least nowadays.. the stuff being played on the radio in the 90s was just pure gold. At the same time I hate a lot of metal.. both can be mindless, boring, and uninspired. I'm not sure I hate ALL pop as much I hate the EXTREMELY mundane "rock" that Nickelback, Buckcherry, Hinder, and Theory of a Deadman make.

I completely disagree with the idea that metal is dead. Honestly, if anything, I think metal is undergoing some kind of renaissance right now. There are probably more good metal bands putting out albums right now than there ever have been and many of them are pushing in really different and interesting directions musically.

I'm anti-Ish. Either you're something, or you're not, but don't be both. No one wants Ashlee Simpson singing Amon Amarth . It's just not right. Anti-Ish.

And how dare anybody slander Hinder. They're trying very hard to be completely redundant in their songs.

I thought you said Anti-Irish and it made me choke on my milky drink.

Anti-pop
 

Anti-pop, metal actually has passion and thought put into it... Ha time even!

Um... no? Do you realize how terrible that argument is? Look at jackhammer's post of pop music that doesn't suck.

I'm actually anti-metal.

I never understood it and I never will.

i'm probably more anti-metal, but i'm still ok with hard rock

There is a medium. I mean, there's pop and then there's metal, but in between them both is rock. Rock isn't too light like pop, but also not too heavy like metal...

agreed.

I anti most types of music. Pop, (American) Country Music, Heavy Metal and Rap has become less about music and more about a formulaic corporate product. I think of Pop as being Michael Jackson, Madonna, Mariah Carey, Shakira and so I definitely feel anti-Pop. I can't imagine someone who likes that Lady Ga Ga would talk about British Sea Power or The Kooks.

since most of the bands I like from The Beatles to The Jam & The Smiths were once big on the charts, and more recent bands like Kings of Leon, Arctic Monkeys, Coldplay, & the Killers on the charts now I guess someone could argue taste in music was Pop because my bands were/are on the charts.

Since Pop is umbrella term for all kind of music that is popular at the time, I can't say I am anti-pop, I guess I more anti-Metal.

i'm not against anything

in this era i don't think anyone could be anti-pop. anti-top 40? easily. but there's way too much music which explores pop melodies without ever actually getting played over the radio. in full confidence i don't think i could ever endorse a spiteful view when some of my favorite artists are pop musicians: David Bowie, Stereolab, Jesus and Mary Chain, XTC, The Church, etc.

Anti-Pop and Pro-metal. I don't mind rock at all, infact I actually like a lot of it. But Hip-hop and rap I think is 0.00001% talent and the rest is split between appearance, lyrical content, and ability to use a computer to produce stupid repetitive beats. Any human being can physically rap, but the vast majority of people in the world can't scream, growl, or pig squeal as is necessary in death metal. So death metal takes a lot more skill to do in every way.

Actually, there are a lot of people who cannot rap (myself included). Also, there are a lot of death metal bands that are extremely repetitive. You can't just generalize a whole genre of music without looking into it.

Lol.

I like good pop, and I also like good metal. =D

If anything, I'm pretty much anti-rap, but I can basically get into just about any other type of music with some exceptions of course.