SuperFob

What makes you think that?

jackhammer

Is this thread still open?

Superfob-do u like any other genre of music?

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SuperFob

What makes you think I don't? I don't care much for classical music at all. A few things here or there have caught my attention (most of it coming from Beethoven), but that's all.

I don't care for the instruments, most of all. I bet classical music fans probably see the original orchestral instruments used in classical music as some how 'pure', 'original', and superior, but most of it just sounds incredibly plain to me, especially violins.

I think that's part of the reason why I've actually enjoyed some Beethoven's work. The pieces of music that I HAVE enjoyed didn't have much of the plain orchestral string instruments in them.

jackhammer

So you have spent the last few days arguing about a genre that you don't share a huge affinity for and not bothered looking at the wealth of solid opinions and well written write ups eleswhere on the boards?

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Neapolitan

Now is that John Williams the classical guitarist or John Williams the composer?
for future reference, please be more specific, I can't answer you until I know who the heck you are talking about.

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Urban Hat€monger ?

Considering he mentioned composers in the same sentence I would have thought it was blindingly obvious.

Or is this just you doing your usual thing of making a mountain out of a molehill.

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Janszoon

Here I was thinking he was talking about John Williams the Australian senator.

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Neapolitan

woosh I got it wrong on both accounts. John William, the Australian senator, before entering politics was a sheep shearer, and if you compare his work with sheep to say J.S. Bach's Sheep May Safely Graze, from BWV 208, I think hands down J.S. Bach's work is far more superior to John William's work.

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SuperFob

Not really, no. I would elaborate, but I'd rather not waste my time doing that for someone who finds it so taxing to actually read my posts properly.

VEGANGELICA

Ahh, SuperFob...this part of your paragraph in bold inspired me to look again at the variety of instruments that have been used in classical music (in the European tradition) ranging from around 900 A.D. to now...and made me realize again how wonderfully diverse and creative musicians have been over the centuries while thinking of new ways of making music and different types of music. It is only relatively recently (during the last several hundred years) that what many people may think of as "classical music" instruments became standard, and before that time there were many other instruments that people used in classical music (lutes, dulcimer, hurdy-gurdies, etc.).

Now if a classical music fan limits her sights (or ears) to just the Classical period from the mid-1700s to mid-1800s or so, then she might be led to think that violin, viola, cello, etc. were the "original" instruments...but the reality of music development is oh-so-much more wild and delightful! And this is just considering classical music in the European tradition. If you broaden your outlook to include classical music from other areas of the world...and all the different methods of tuning that exist (not just the one most of us probably think of as standard)...then classical music becomes far from plain, I feel!

Ha ha! Oh, I heartily agree, Neapolitan, that J.S. Bach's "Sheep May Safely Graze" is much superior to John Williams's sheep-shearing work that he completed in his "Shearer" period from 1974-99:

"Sheep May Safely Graze" (Orchestral Version, based on J.S. Bach, which my orchestra is currently playing with standard instruments):



"Sheep May NOT Safely Graze" (Sheep being sheared with shearing instruments...and sturdy chain):

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