Fake Plastic Band (Music Video Games)

[crow t robot]

If you don't live under a rock, you've heard of Guitar Hero or Rock Band and

probably even played it. Beatles: Rock Band is immensely popular and there

are talks of an upcoming The Who: Rock Band...There are hundreds and

hundreds of songs available for download including full albums by many

artists.

Recently,

several artists, including Jack White, have voiced their disapproval of these

games. Courtney Love-Cobain and Gwen Stefani have lawsuits against the

makers of Guitar Hero 5 and Band Hero, respectively. As a long-time guitarist

and gamer, I have a blast playing these games..I also feel it may open kids up

to some good music and may even inspire them to pick up a real guitar.

What do you think?

[music_phantom13]

I voted that I don't really care because I don't play them much, but I'd amend that after reading the end of your post about how it could actually introduce some people to good music. I think they're just being bitches. But when did GH4 come out? I thought it was still 3...

[Schizotypic]

I don't see any problem with them existing. What was the reason for the lawsuit?

[Molecules]

Originally Posted by Schizotypic

I don't see any problem with them existing. What was the reason for the lawsuit?

i wouldn't want my likeness prancing about like robert page and singing songs i would have hated when i was alive...

these games are all just contingent on the fame-and-wealth obsessed culture of the times, it's f*cking sad. and this has nothing to do with the fact that i played guitar hero once and sucked...
maybe there'd be more decent bands if all the kids weren't pissing about on their satan machines and auditioning for X Factor to get to no.1 singing homogenized bilge... followed by anonymity and (if they're lucky) careers presenting TV on a backwater digital channel. You know, the kind of people that actually WATCH the VMAs/Brit Awards

prodding plastic knobs in time to Aerosmith (or worse)... knock yourself out guys. Just remember they get paid for it

[crow t robot]

Originally Posted by music_phantom13

when did GH4 come out? I thought it was still 3...

GH4 was called GH: World Tour i think...

[sidewinder]

I've played Rock Band once or twice, I don't really get the obsession. I got bored pretty quickly.

[LoathsomePete]

What started out as a neat idea has turned into a Corporate cash grab. Here's a list of the Guitar Hero games that came out (or are coming out) in 2009 alone:

Guitar Hero 5
Band Hero
DJ Hero
Guitar Hero: Metallica
Guitar Hero: Van Halen (North American release date 12/22/2009)
Guitar Hero On Tour: Modern Hits
Guitar Hero: Smash Hits

Not only that but there's a slew of DLC and the main competitor Rock Band putting out their Beatles and Lego Rock Band game too.

Nobody is forcing anyone to buy these games and to be honest I really don't notice them all that much, but like I said before, what started out as a neat game has really turned into a cash grab.

[mr dave]

i'm really hesitant to call them cash grabs. especially when the titles drop in price relatively quickly, and are relatively cross compatible. it's not like they need to reinvent the wheel every time they release a new take on the game, the bulk of the product are the actual songs, the charts and blocks really aren't that complicated to create (in terms of digital assets). subsequent releases are less about buying a new 'game' and more about new content.

if anything the increase in titles shows how relatively simple it is for developpers to create more content for the titles (and how popular they actually are in the market - regardless of the opinions presented here). which in turn offers more music for gamers. yes, there's crap on there, but there's always at least 2-3 really standout tracks and at least a dozen decent tracks as well as some nice surprises.

as for the lawsuits... when's the last time Courtney Love did anything noteworthy besides file a lawsuit? (seriously though, when was the last time? Celebrity Skin? wiki says... oh wow, she put out a solo album after Hole... 5 years ago.)

why didn't she sue when Cobain's likeness would end up on stage during a Bon Jovi song in the first rockband?

No Doubt and the rest of Nirvana? same deal. neither group seemed to have issues with their association with the games initially. if it's a case of the developpers acting without consulting that would be a worthwhile issue, but it's also something that gets drilled into your head pretty quickly when you work as a developper. especially after the fallout from the GTA3 'hot coffee' lawsuits.

plus there are reports that Love knew exactly what the deal was with the new Guitar Hero game. so i'm more inclined to believe it's the rockstars not paying attention to the fine print.... speaking of cash grabs....

[Pillowmint]

Never played them and I don't see the point, I have a real guitar and an imagination.

[mr dave]

Originally Posted by Pillowmint

Never played them and I don't see the point, I have a real guitar and an imagination.

i have 8 guitars and an imagination too. shared your attitude for years until i finally got over myself and tried it. turns out it's less about pretending to play music and more about having fun with music (and not limiting itself to musicians).

it's also a good way to check out music that you might have overlooked for whatever reason. i find myself pleasantly surprised more often than disappointed when an unrecognized track comes up in a random set.

it's obviously no replacement for the real thing but most people can't crank their amps and jam whenever they want and these games make for a nice little practice tool as far as stamina, timing, and dexterity go. all depends on how you want to approach the product.

speaking of. i'm gonna go pretend drum now, and don't tell me the sweat i'll be breaking isn't real either hahaha