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Urban Hat€monger ? · 02-06-2005, 01:37 PM

No matter what you say Hip Hop is still the biggest selling genre. You`ve taken the context of what I said in the wrong way. Which is fair enough , I didn`t explain what I meant properly. I meant the percentage of rock music being bought in comparison to other genres is the lowest it`s ever been.

franscar · 02-06-2005, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

No matter what you say Hip Hop is still the biggest selling genre.

Singles wise, yes, but album wise, not by a long way. Other than the massive rap-pop acts there isn't anything like the same sort of market. Rap/R & B album sales are a little above that of metal sales, and in some parts of the country (midlands and Northern Ireland) metal albums outsell R & B.

hookers with machineguns · 02-06-2005, 03:56 PM

top ten selling albums of 2004:
1. "Confessions," Usher: 7,978,594
2. "Feels Like Home," Norah Jones: 3,842,920
3. "Encore," Eminem: 3,517,097
4. "When The Sun Goes Down," Kenny Chesney: 3,072,224
5. "Here for the Party," Gretchen Wilson: 2,931,097
6. "Live Like You Were Dying," Tim McGraw: 2,786,840
7. "Songs About Jane," Maroon 5: 2,708,415
8. "Fallen," Evanesence: 2,614,226
9. "Autobiography," Ashlee Simpson: 2,576,945
10. "Now 16: Now That's What I Call Music!": 2,560,316

in general, pop, hip hop, and country are the top selling albums in the US. I dont know how it is elsewhere.

franscar · 02-06-2005, 04:02 PM

1 Scissor Sisters - 'Scissor Sisters'
2 Keane - 'Hopes And Fears'
3 Robbie Williams - Greatest Hits
4 Maroon 5 - 'Songs About Jane'
5 Katie Melua - 'Call Off The Search'
6 Anastacia - 'Anastacia'
7 Usher - 'Confessions'
8 Norah Jones - 'Feels Like Home'
9 Snow Patrol - 'Final Straw'
1o Il Divo - 'Il Divo'

That was the UK's top sellers for 2004, three of the top 5 coming under the rock bracket.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 02-06-2005, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by franscar

1 Scissor Sisters - 'Scissor Sisters'
2 Keane - 'Hopes And Fears'
3 Robbie Williams - Greatest Hits
4 Maroon 5 - 'Songs About Jane'
5 Katie Melua - 'Call Off The Search'
6 Anastacia - 'Anastacia'
7 Usher - 'Confessions'
8 Norah Jones - 'Feels Like Home'
9 Snow Patrol - 'Final Straw'
1o Il Divo - 'Il Divo'

That was the UK's top sellers for 2004, three of the top 5 coming under the rock bracket.

3 of the top 5 ?

I see 2 rock bands in that entire list.

And the UK`s sales figures hardly make a difference in the world market.

franscar · 02-07-2005, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

3 of the top 5 ?

I see 2 rock bands in that entire list.

And the UK`s sales figures hardly make a difference in the world market.

Well clearly you're using genres as a chance to split hairs, which is your own perogative. Scissor Sisters, Keane, Maroon 5 and Snow Patrol are all listed as rock bands, that's four from the top ten sellers of 2004. the pattern continues the further down the chart you go as well.

And the U.K. actually comprises 1/5 of the world's music market, so our sales figures do make a pretty considerable difference.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 02-07-2005, 01:10 PM

Maroon 5 & Scissor Sisters are rock bands now ???????

And if i`m splitting hairs you are ignoring practically every sales figures issued over the past 10 years or so

ArtistInTheAmbulance · 02-07-2005, 01:16 PM

Ok I wouldnt class any of those bands as rock myself, but if you went into a a HMV, they'd be under the 'rock/pop' section . So he's right really, hardly anyone classes them as rock, theyre just listed there.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 02-07-2005, 01:21 PM

OK Maroon 5 I can maybe understand , even though most of their stuff sounds like a bad Jay Kay B Side & I`ve never seen him classed as rock.

But the Scissor Sisters?

They make bloody disco records for **** sake.

ArtistInTheAmbulance · 02-07-2005, 01:25 PM

Im not saying I agree with it at all. I cant see how Maroon 5 are meant to be rock even. So they have guitars, that doesnt make them rock. I have nothing against them, and I know they dont class themselves as rock, but still... I dont think the whole 'rock/pop' section really makes any sense anyway. They basically took the pop genre and wrote the word 'rock' beside it, theres hardly any rock in there (if any) normally.

02-06-2005, 03:56 PM	#13 (permalink)
hookers with machineguns Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,753	top ten selling albums of 2004: 1. "Confessions," Usher: 7,978,594 2. "Feels Like Home," Norah Jones: 3,842,920 3. "Encore," Eminem: 3,517,097 4. "When The Sun Goes Down," Kenny Chesney: 3,072,224 5. "Here for the Party," Gretchen Wilson: 2,931,097 6. "Live Like You Were Dying," Tim McGraw: 2,786,840 7. "Songs About Jane," Maroon 5: 2,708,415 8. "Fallen," Evanesence: 2,614,226 9. "Autobiography," Ashlee Simpson: 2,576,945 10. "Now 16: Now That's What I Call Music!": 2,560,316 in general, pop, hip hop, and country are the top selling albums in the US. I dont know how it is elsewhere. __________________ LASTFM

02-07-2005, 01:16 PM	#18 (permalink)
ArtistInTheAmbulance enchanted. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: cornwailles, angleterre. Posts: 2,537	Ok I wouldnt class any of those bands as rock myself, but if you went into a a HMV, they'd be under the 'rock/pop' section . So he's right really, hardly anyone classes them as rock, theyre just listed there. __________________ shake your wings like theyre laced with sound!

02-07-2005, 01:25 PM	#20 (permalink)
ArtistInTheAmbulance enchanted. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: cornwailles, angleterre. Posts: 2,537	Im not saying I agree with it at all. I cant see how Maroon 5 are meant to be rock even. So they have guitars, that doesnt make them rock. I have nothing against them, and I know they dont class themselves as rock, but still... I dont think the whole 'rock/pop' section really makes any sense anyway. They basically took the pop genre and wrote the word 'rock' beside it, theres hardly any rock in there (if any) normally. __________________ shake your wings like theyre laced with sound!

02-06-2005, 01:37 PM	#11 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	No matter what you say Hip Hop is still the biggest selling genre. You`ve taken the context of what I said in the wrong way. Which is fair enough , I didn`t explain what I meant properly. I meant the percentage of rock music being bought in comparison to other genres is the lowest it`s ever been.

02-06-2005, 04:02 PM	#14 (permalink)
franscar Honky Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Birmingham Posts: 665	1 Scissor Sisters - 'Scissor Sisters' 2 Keane - 'Hopes And Fears' 3 Robbie Williams - Greatest Hits 4 Maroon 5 - 'Songs About Jane' 5 Katie Melua - 'Call Off The Search' 6 Anastacia - 'Anastacia' 7 Usher - 'Confessions' 8 Norah Jones - 'Feels Like Home' 9 Snow Patrol - 'Final Straw' 1o Il Divo - 'Il Divo' That was the UK's top sellers for 2004, three of the top 5 coming under the rock bracket.

02-07-2005, 01:10 PM	#17 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	Maroon 5 & Scissor Sisters are rock bands now ??????? And if i`m splitting hairs you are ignoring practically every sales figures issued over the past 10 years or so

02-07-2005, 01:21 PM	#19 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	OK Maroon 5 I can maybe understand , even though most of their stuff sounds like a bad Jay Kay B Side & I`ve never seen him classed as rock. But the Scissor Sisters? They make bloody disco records for **** sake.