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APCTOOL91 12-15-2009 02:26 PM

Do You Guys Agree With This?!
 
So Rolling Stone published their "100 Best Albums of the Decade" this past week and I have to say WTF!? I can agree with some of these choices, but what do you guys think?

Here's the article:
100 Best Albums of the Decade : Rolling Stone

1 | Radiohead: Kid A

2 | The Strokes: Is This It

3 | Wilco: Yankee Hotel Foxtrot

4 | Jay-Z: The Blueprint

5 | The White Stripes: Elephant

6 | Arcade Fire: Funeral

7 | Eminem: The Marshal Mathers LP

8 | Bob Dylan: Modern Times

9 | M.I.A.: Kala

10 | Kanye West: The College Dropout

11 | Bob Dylan: Love and Theft

12 | LCD Soundsystem: Sound of Silver

13 | U2: All That You Can't Leave Behind

14 | Jay-Z: The Black Album

15 | Bruce Springsteen: The Rising

16 | OutKast: Stankonia

17 | Beck: Sea Change

18 | MGMT: Oracular Spectacular

19 | Amy Winehouse: Back to Black

20 | The White Stripes: White Blood Cells

21 | Coldplay: A Rush of Blood to the Head

22 | Green Day: American Idiot

23 | D'Angelo: Voodoo

24 | Bruce Springsteen: Magic

25 | Radiohead: Amnesiac

26 | Cat Power: The Greatest

27 | The Flaming Lips: Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots

28 | Yeah Yeah Yeahs: Fever to Tell

29 | Sigur Rós: Ágaetis Byrjun

30 | Radiohead: In Rainbows

31 | My Morning Jacket: Z

32 | Lil Wayne: Tha Carter III

33 | Daft Punk: Discovery

34 | OutKast: Speakerboxxx/The Love Below

35 | PJ Harvey: Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea

36 | U2: No Line on the Horizon

37 | 50 Cent: Get Rich or Die Tryin'

38 | Ryan Adams: Heartbreaker

39 | Kings of Leon: Aha Shake Heartbreak

40 | Kanye West: Late Registration

41 | Arctic Monkeys: Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not

42 | Elliott Smith: Figure 8

43 | The Killers: Hot Fuss

44 | System of a Down: Toxicity

45 | Kanye West: Graduation

46 | Justin Timberlake: FutureSex/LoveSounds

47 | Fleet Foxes: Fleet Foxes

48 | TV on the Radio: Dear Science

49 | Fiona Apple: Extraordionary Machine

50 | Bright Eyes: I'm Wide Awake It's Morning

51 | Spoon: Kill the Moonlight

52 | M.I.A.: Arular

53 | Kings of Leon: Only By the Night

54 | Norah Jones: Come Away With Me

55 | Robert Plant and Alison Krauss: Raising Sand

56 | Vampire Weekend: Vampire Weekend

57 | Death Cab for Cutie: Transatlanticism

58 | Danger Mouse: The Grey Album

59 | Interpol: Turn on the Bright Lights

60 | Phoenix: Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix

61 | The Shins: Oh, Inverted World

62 | Johnny Cash: American III: Solitary Man

63 | Kanye West: 808s and Heartbreak

64 | Gillian Welch: Time the Revelator

65 | Manu Chao: Próxima Estación Esperanza

66 | Antony & the Johnsons: I Am a Bird Now

67 | Björk: Vespertine

68 | U2: How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb

69 | Missy Elliott: Under Construction

70 | Sleater-Kinney: The Woods

71 | Bright Eyes: Lifted or the Story is in the Soil, Keep Your Eart to the Ground

72 | Franz Ferdinand: Franz Ferdinand

73 | Coldplay: Parachutes

74 | Red Hot Chili Peppers: Stadium Arcadium

75 | Arcade Fire: Neon Bible

76 | Sigur Rós: ()

77 | Yo La Tengo: And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside Out

78 | Sufjan Stevens: Illinois

79 | The New Pornographers: Electric Version

80 | Kings of Leon: Youth and Young Manhood

81 | Ryan Adams: Gold

82 | Queens of the Stone Age: Rated R

83 | The Black Keys: Attack & Release

84 | Eminem: The Eminem Show

85 | Coldplay: Viva La Vida

86 | The Postal Service: Give Up

87 | Gnarls Barkley: St. Elsewhere

88 | Brian Wilson: Smile

89 | Radiohead: Hail to the Thief

90 | Amadou & Miriam: Dimanche a Bamako

91 | The Hives: Veni Vidi Vicious

92 | Bon Iver: For Emma, Forever Ago

93 | Johnny Cash: Unearthed

94 | The Libertines: Up the Brackett

95 | Alicia Keys: Songs in A Minor

96 | The Streets: Original Pirate Material

97 | Wilco: Sky Blue Sky

98 | TV on the Radio: Return to Cookie Mountain

99 | The Hold Steady: Almost Killed Me

100 | Leonard Cohen: 10 New Songs

right-track 12-15-2009 02:32 PM

As lists like these go, that's not a bad list.

Edit: I took the liberty of including the actual list in your post.
Hope you don't mind.

Rickenbacker 12-15-2009 02:39 PM

This is really bad. Worse than Pitchforks, and only a little better than the NME's. Three Coldplay? Four Kanye West albums? No thanks...

LoathsomePete 12-15-2009 02:40 PM

Pretty predictable list but it's what I've come to expect from Rolling Stone. Apparently metal did not exist this past decade...

Rickenbacker 12-15-2009 02:43 PM

Agreed. I trust Rolling Stone less than any other major publication honestly.

sidewinder 12-15-2009 02:55 PM

It's Rolling Stone. I'm not even going to read it. :laughing:

dac 12-15-2009 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by APCTOOL91 (Post 785130)
1 | Radiohead: Kid A

2 | The Strokes: Is This It

6 | Arcade Fire: Funeral

12 | LCD Soundsystem: Sound of Silver

17 | Beck: Sea Change

25 | Radiohead: Amnesiac

26 | Cat Power: The Greatest

27 | The Flaming Lips: Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots

29 | Sigur Rós: Ágaetis Byrjun

30 | Radiohead: In Rainbows

31 | My Morning Jacket: Z

41 | Arctic Monkeys: Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not

42 | Elliott Smith: Figure 8

47 | Fleet Foxes: Fleet Foxes

48 | TV on the Radio: Dear Science

59 | Interpol: Turn on the Bright Lights

67 | Björk: Vespertine

72 | Franz Ferdinand: Franz Ferdinand

75 | Arcade Fire: Neon Bible

76 | Sigur Rós: ()

77 | Yo La Tengo: And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside Out

78 | Sufjan Stevens: Illinois

82 | Queens of the Stone Age: Rated R

92 | Bon Iver: For Emma, Forever Ago

98 | TV on the Radio: Return to Cookie Mountain

Those are the albums that I would consider for such a list... 24/100 ain't bad for rolling stone... they left out some pretty big ones, but at least they got #1 right.

mr dave 12-15-2009 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by APCTOOL91 (Post 785130)
So Rolling Stone published their "100 Best Albums of the Decade" this past week and I have to say WTF!? I can agree with some of these choices, but what do you guys think?

i think you got played like a fiddle.

sidewinder nails it with his comment. Rolling Stone hasn't been worth the paper it's printed on in a very long time. every few months they plop out a contentious list of X albums and people pick it up and present it to the world to see under the guise of discontent at their choices.

you just did their marketing department's job.

gunnels 12-15-2009 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by APCTOOL91 (Post 785130)

1 | Radiohead: Kid A

27 | The Flaming Lips: Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots

29 | Sigur Rós: Ágaetis Byrjun


44 | System of a Down: Toxicity


67 | Björk: Vespertine

Love these, rest is good to bad.

Burning Down 12-15-2009 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rickenbacker (Post 785142)
Agreed. I trust Rolling Stone less than any other major publication honestly.

Same here. It's been a long time since I picked up a copy of RS.

jackhammer 12-15-2009 05:39 PM

All these sort of lists will never satisfy the battle hardened music fan and I would much rather rely on word of mouth to hear new music or lost gems. Strokes Number 2? Does anyone even listen to that album anymore?It's decent enough but number 2 for what is essentially a Garage Rock revival album and not a particularly great one at that? Give me The Hunches or King Khan anyday.

IWP 12-15-2009 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by APCTOOL91 (Post 785130)
So Rolling Stone published their "100 Best Albums of the Decade" this past week and I have to say WTF!? I can agree with some of these choices, but what do you guys think?

18 | MGMT: Oracular Spectacular

33 | Daft Punk: Discovery

43 | The Killers: Hot Fuss

44 | System of a Down: Toxicity

72 | Franz Ferdinand: Franz Ferdinand

74 | Red Hot Chili Peppers: Stadium Arcadium

The only good ones.

jacklovezhimself 12-15-2009 08:54 PM

^ wow...how absolutely absurd.

Rickenbacker 12-15-2009 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IWP (Post 785409)
The only good ones.

Absurd.

NumberNineDream 12-15-2009 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by APCTOOL91 (Post 785130)

44 | System of a Down: Toxicity

65 | Manu Chao: Próxima Estación Esperanza

90 | Amadou & Miriam: Dimanche a Bamako

I'm just happy for these three, didn't expect them to be here.

IWP 12-16-2009 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jacklovezhimself (Post 785413)
^ wow...how absolutely absurd.

Sorry, I'm not really that into 2000s music, or at least most of the crap that was popular/mainstream this decade. I can confidently say that I prefer music from just about any other time period in the last 50 years (except maybe the early 60s) than music from the 2000s.

However, I'm starting to really dig a lot of music that's been getting big within the last year or two (i.e. Frankmusik, Deadmau5, Calvin Harris, etc.), and seeing as how there is probably going to be a backlash against nearly everything that was popular in the 2000s once the 2010s arrive (kind of like how everything in the 80s was frowned upon in the 90s) as well as sort of an 80s revival (at least vibe wise anyway) in electropop music that's been getting big lately, I sure as hell am looking forward to the 2010s.

All of this is my opinion, and if you don't like it, then tough ****.

NumberNineDream 12-16-2009 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IWP (Post 785527)
Sorry, I'm not really that into 2000s music, or at least most of the crap that was popular/mainstream this decade. I can confidently say that I prefer music from just about any other time period in the last 50 years (except maybe the early 60s) than music from the 2000s.

However, I'm starting to really dig a lot of music that's been getting big within the last year or two (i.e. Frankmusik, Deadmau5, Calvin Harris, etc.), and seeing as how there is probably going to be a backlash against nearly everything that was popular in the 2000s once the 2010s arrive (kind of like how everything in the 80s was frowned upon in the 90s) as well as sort of an 80s revival (at least vibe wise anyway) in electropop music that's been getting big lately, I sure as hell am looking forward to the 2010s.

That paragraph was full of contradictions.

IWP 12-16-2009 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NumberNineDream (Post 785530)
That paragraph was full of contradictions.

I did kind of contradict myself when I said that I was getting into some current artists, but the ones that I mentioned aren't even that popular yet (at least not in the U.S. anyway), but are probably going to become big in the 2010s. In other words, some artists that are just getting noticed now like the ones I've mentioned, are probably going to become very popular in the 2010s, so basically late 2008-2009 is pretty much a transitional period from the 2000s-2010s, perhaps I've should've elaborated more on that in my last post. Other than that, I really don't see how I contradicted myself.

Sansa Stark 12-16-2009 02:06 AM

Acceptable only as Is This It is number two

Saffenkoff 12-16-2009 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickenbacker (Post 785142)
agreed. I trust rolling stone less than any other major publication honestly.

+1000%!

Anteater 12-16-2009 07:39 AM

Any argument that relies on the word "probably" is probably full of shit. :)

FETCHER. 12-16-2009 07:58 AM

polls like this are just a popularity contest. I think I only seen max 5. albums that I own :O

Violent & Funky 12-16-2009 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dac (Post 785151)
Those are the albums that I would consider for such a list... 24/100 ain't bad for rolling stone... they left out some pretty big ones, but at least they got #1 right.

Not gonna give The White Stripes any credit, eh?

Violent & Funky 12-16-2009 08:23 AM

Stadium Arcadium? Really!?

This list looks like a bunch of washed up 70s/80s Rolling Stone favorites and typical hipster crap...

BTown 12-16-2009 08:43 AM

I'm pretty sure the only albums I own off of this are both the Bright Eyes ones.

Burning Down 12-16-2009 09:26 AM

I'm actually curious as to whether they took some kind of survey to get these results or if it was just a bunch of their employees sitting around a table constructing the list. Both come out with biased results anyways because they're just samples of the general public.

Rickenbacker 12-16-2009 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Violent & Funky (Post 785634)
Stadium Arcadium? Really!?

This list looks like a bunch of washed up 70s/80s Rolling Stone favorites and typical hipster crap...

But not even the good typical hipster crap :laughing:


Case and point: no Animal Collective

sidewinder 12-16-2009 11:04 AM

Alright so I decided to actually look at the list. The following albums are ones I like, ranging from decent to great. Not all deserve to be on this list. Disregarding each album's position, I've put a + next to the ones I feel are deserving of being on a top 100 of decade list. I've put - next to the ones that are decent but not at all the band's best work, and therefore I don't feel they belong on this list. The ones with no marks I don't have strong feelings one way or the other about...but are good enough to be on the list, but not likely to be on my personal top 100 list.

+ Radiohead: Kid A

The White Stripes: Elephant

Beck: Sea Change

+ The White Stripes: White Blood Cells

+ Radiohead: Amnesiac

- Radiohead: In Rainbows
(it's good but not top 100 good, and do we need 4 Radiohead albums on this list? I think not. Hail to the Thief should definitely be dropped first though)

+ PJ Harvey: Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea

System of a Down: Toxicity

TV on the Radio: Dear Science

- Death Cab for Cutie: Transatlanticism
(the album that made me lose interest in them...but it's the style most people like)

+ The Shins: Oh, Inverted World
(I think all 3 of their albums are strong but if only one is to be included, it would be Oh, Inverted World for me)

Franz Ferdinand: Franz Ferdinand

The New Pornographers: Electric Version

- Queens of the Stone Age: Rated R
(features some great tracks but overall it's the one I enjoy least aside from Era Vulgaris)

+
The Postal Service: Give Up
(though it hasn't aged all that well, I liked it a lot at the time and it made an impact this decade)

- Radiohead: Hail to the Thief
(I think it's their worst album, not including Pablo Honey which I've never bothered to listen to)

+ TV on the Radio: Return to Cookie Mountain



Not that anyone cares! :wavey:

Rickenbacker 12-16-2009 11:07 AM

I agree with you on the whole Sidewinder, even though I thought In Rainbows was the bee's knees.

Violent & Funky 12-16-2009 11:26 AM

Since it's just about the only metal album on the list, it should definitely include Toxicity. It really is a great album too.

I personally find Rated R to be Queens' best record, but it's all about personal tastes. I even enjoy the b-sides as much as the rest of the album. I think Oliveri brought a lot to those recordings.

I'm surprised to not see either The Moon & Antarctica or Good News For People Who Love Bad News by Modest Mouse, a Raconteurs album, a Tool abum, or maybe even one of the albums recently released by such 80s/90s indie stalwarts as Sonic Youth, Dino Jr, or Built to Spill...

sidewinder 12-16-2009 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Violent & Funky (Post 785687)
I'm surprised to not see either The Moon & Antarctica or Good News For People Who Love Bad News by Modest Mouse, a Raconteurs album, a Tool abum, or maybe even one of the albums recently released by such 80s/90s indie stalwarts as Sonic Youth, Dino Jr, or Built to Spill...

You're right about that. Since I'm not trying to come up with my own top 100 in this thread I only focused on what they had and whether I agreed or not. But since you mention it, it is quite shocking not to see Modest Mouse's The Moon & Antarctica (though Rolling Stone would have likely picked Good News or the awful We Were Dead over it), and Tool's Lateralus. I'd love to see some Built to Spill but don't expect it from Rolling Stone, same goes for the others you mentioned who I don't follow enough to have an opinion on. Actually, I don't listen to Raconteurs but it seems they made quite an impact and that Rolling Stones would like them.

WolfAtTheDoor 12-16-2009 06:07 PM

Love the fact Sound of Silver is Number 12.

dac 12-16-2009 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Violent & Funky (Post 785632)
Not gonna give The White Stripes any credit, eh?

Musta missed that one... RS is now at 25%

I'm actually quite impressed with that number.

ElephantSack 12-17-2009 06:13 AM

That list is bull****. I've only heard 5 of those albums, but any top 100 list that has The Strokes in the top 5 and doesn't have the word "worst" in the title is just trying to sell you something.

But then again, this is coming from a magazine that called Justin Timberlake "an edgy performer".

Raust 12-17-2009 09:48 AM

All that matters is that kid a is #1. It's my favorite album of all time.

bubblenoise 12-18-2009 02:41 PM

I don't think that MGMT belongs on any decade lists, much less Rolling Stone's. It was terrible terrible album in my opinion (the few times I could listen it through all the way) and nothing innovative. Big thumbs down to RS for placing it within the top 20.

jackhammer 12-18-2009 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElephantSack (Post 786120)
That list is bull****. I've only heard 5 of those albums, but any top 100 list that has The Strokes in the top 5 and doesn't have the word "worst" in the title is just trying to sell you something.

But then again, this is coming from a magazine that called Justin Timberlake "an edgy performer".

Only 5 seriously? I would consider myself a relative non mainstream fan but I have heard 41 of those albums and own 22 of them :( Still doesn't mean it's a good list though at all.

Schizotypic 12-18-2009 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 786775)
Only 5 seriously? I would consider myself a relative non mainstream fan but I have heard 41 of those albums and own 22 of them :( Still doesn't mean it's a good list though at all.

I own a bunch of those albums too. Arcade Fire, Killers, PJ Harvey Leonard Cohen to name a few but there's surely more then that. At least it's not a complete shit list. As far weather or not it could be better... well, that's just obvious.

someonecompletelyrandom 12-18-2009 07:58 PM

Well... it wasn't as bad as I had expected. But... ahem... The Eminem Show? Why rank his least impressive album on there and not even include the Slim Shady LP?

Janszoon 12-18-2009 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conan (Post 786847)
Well... it wasn't as bad as I had expected. But... ahem... The Eminem Show? Why rank his least impressive album on there and not even include the Slim Shady LP?

Maybe because The Slim Shady LP came out in 1999?


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