Urban Hat€monger ?

They do it because they are idiots, plain & simple.

I listen to punk, I listen to grindcore. Never been in trouble , always held down a job, hardly every drink , don't take drugs , help old ladies across the road......

Why not say I do all those things because I listen to punk as well?

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bandteacher1

I'm not saying that all teenagers who listen to it do, Urban. I'm just saying that it's a d^amn strong part of them. Part of it is their parents. The parents don't teach them the difference between right and wrong. Clearly, your parents did.
And I will admit, people do have the right to decide for themselves about anything and everything, as everybody as a freewill, but it doesn't help that's what they THINK they should do. And because they think they should, they will. But where'd they get the idea from?

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jackhammer

Rebellious music has been around since the 50's and generally kids start stuff due to peer pressure more than any other criteiria.

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bandteacher1

I will always be the first one to stand up for the youth. But I'm looking at it from a stastics stand point.

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The Monkey

One of the worst threads I've seen on any forum.
So now you say they act badly because of their upbringing? I thought it was them listening to Lady Gaga and 50 cent.

Art has always, and hopefully will always, challenge the norm. There's nothing wrong with sex, drugs and dancing if done properly. The music in the 60s and 70s also dealt with those themes, and do you think the people who were young then were destroyed or corrupted by it?

mr dave

did the mainstream media turn you into a hedonistic zombie?

do you really think you are the only young person with the mental fortitude to see through the crass commercialism of mainstream?

do you remember what the bulk of the music on the radio in the late 80s was about? i'll give you a hint, it was the exact same as your complaints only they replaced clubs with parties.

so... what's the real issue? are you really concerned about the well being of kids, or just peeved that the radio doesn't play what you consider 'good' anymore?

if anything i think the mainstream has LESS influence on young people today than it ever has. as soon as youths start really getting into music they turn to the net and as soon as they start topics like this one they're shown pretty quickly that their narrow view on the world and mainstream media don't really amount to anything to be concerned over. basically, mainstream music is the equivalent to fast food, and fast food is only a detriment to society to those who lack the ability to take control of themselves (ie: worthless).

just like that High Fidelity quote from ealier, although i remember it from a Frank Zappa interview, the VAST majority of pop songs have ALL been written about love, falling in and out of it, relationships, breakups, etc, etc. but still, all about love. has it turned us into a society of Cyrano de Bergeracs and Morrisseys?...

while it's normal to react against it when you noticed you've been played, it's really not that harsh of a 'trick' being perpetuated against the youth of our world.


@bandteacher - looking for stats about how and where the youth went wrong and lacked in the learning of 'right' and 'wrong'. i'd suggest taking a look at divorce rates. north american rates peaked in the late 70s around 50% (thanks 'free' love movement...) and they're still up around 40%, makes it seem appropriate that generations of kids who were abandoned by 1 parent and neglected by the other would turn to mainstream media for any sort of guidance.

and while it wasn't divorce rates per se, kids growing up in the 50s had to deal with the fact that a lot of their fathers didn't come back from the war, and again, one sense of abandonment and another sense of neglect while the living parent tries their best to afford the physical necessities for their family at the expense of their emotional health.

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annapurna

I grew up listening to Moz & The Smiths and I'm still alive to talk about it.

What'sNext?

I have no problem with MEDICAL drugs. It's when people abuse them that their lives often start to suck.

I have no problem with sex, it's just that I don't believe in sex before marriage.

I have no problem with going somewhere and dancing, it just often leads to people abusing drugs and premarital sex.

I'm not trying to shove this down your throat,I'm just answering the question.

Rickenbacker

What is this, the 50s?

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anticipation

what is this, the 30s?