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sweet_nothing 08-18-2008 02:19 PM

I've never heard them.

jackhammer 08-18-2008 02:19 PM

Of course they deserve to get in. Still making interesting music even now and I would say that most people could find an album of theirs likeable even if they were not big fans.

Son of JayJamJah 08-18-2008 02:26 PM

Holy Fleetwood Mac this is a Landslide 11-0

I might vote No now just to be different.

simplephysics 08-18-2008 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayJamJah (Post 508199)
Holy Fleetwood Mac this is a Landslide 11-0

:laughing: even the beatles didn't have a flawless victory, ah but it's not over yet..

Double X 08-18-2008 02:28 PM

That's just because two idiots voted against them for no reason other than anger towards to system...

Son of JayJamJah 08-18-2008 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double X (Post 508204)
That's just because two idiots voted against them for no reason other than anger towards to system...

Correction:: 4 Idiots

Piss Me Off 08-18-2008 02:34 PM

I'm sure somewhere Boo Boo is breathing a sigh of relief.

swim 08-18-2008 02:38 PM

We would've gotten an ear full if this was going the other way.

Laces Out Dan! 08-18-2008 03:17 PM

yesssss

boo boo 08-18-2008 04:21 PM

I accept Yes's defeat, though I'm still a sad panda. :(

But anyone who actually votes no to King Crimson is just being an ass, well it's good to know you all haven't gone completely mad. ;)

King Crimson are so damn good, unlike Yes they never really had any lowpoints in their career, they have so many good albums to choose from and they all have their own unique flavor. They have gone through god knows how many lineup changes but whoever's in the band it's always someone that's incredibly talented. Robert Fripp is truly one of the most innovative guitarists ever, and he's such an odd and very humble fellow too, just watch some interviews with the guy, he's like the last person you'd expect to have a rock band, let alone one like King Crimson. KC are so talented, they are such prolific musicians too, even if you don't like KC rest assured, Fripp, Belew or Levin have appeared in at least one of your favorite albums, no matter who you are, thats how highly demanded they are as session musicians.

I think they're starting work on a new album with Gavin Harrison of Porcupine Tree as their new drummer, I'm pretty psyched about it, they've never had a bad album really, their worst album is ConstruKction of Light and even it's still decent.

These guys are my number one band on LastFM too. Tough to pick a favorite, but ITCOTCK, Lizard, Red and Discipline are all way up there for me.

The Unfan 08-18-2008 04:29 PM

Voted yes for King Crimson.

Urban Hat€monger ? 08-18-2008 05:09 PM

This is where the King Crimson love-in ends.

Some of the stuff i've heard by them is good , other stuff i've heard by them bores the shit out of me.

Now I ask myself , do I want to put in a band into a hall of fame where i've only liked 50% of the material I have heard .. Answer No.

So It's a no from me. And before you reply Boo Boo I didn't vote anything for Yes because in my opinion I hadn't heard enough to judge , In this case I think I have and I have voted No , I am not doing it 'to be an ass' i'm doing it because thats my honest opinion , like it or not.

boo boo 08-18-2008 05:14 PM

Ok thats fine, I figured you would. They're gonna win anyway so I don't care. (=

Seltzer 08-18-2008 05:23 PM

Yeah, I'd say my favourite band in the world deserve to make it through. :D

boo boo 08-18-2008 05:54 PM

KC is the one band with a good sized discography that I still own every studio album from, because unlike most bands with more than 10 albums, even their weakest albums are still worth having.

For those wanting to get into this band, heres how I'd rank their work, in order.

Great:
ITCOTK
Red
Discipline
Lizard
THRAK
Starless and Bible Black
Three of a Perfect Pair
Larks Tongues in Aspic
The Power to Believe/Happy With What You Have to Be Happy With
In The Wake of Poseidon

Good:
Islands
Beat
ConstruKction of Light

Ghostrider 08-19-2008 06:35 AM

Definitely Yes from me, in fact it was while reading Boo Boo's KC review thread that I decided to join MB. The strength of their body of work is impressive, and their contribution to the progressive rock movement was enormous.

ITCOTK
Lizard
Discipline
Red
Larks Tongues in Aspic

My top 5 KC albums, I have all of their studio albums now and have been playing them constantly over the last few weeks.

The Monkey 08-19-2008 12:08 PM

I'll probably write a nomination for The Kinks when I reach 100 posts if no one else is up for it.

simplephysics 08-19-2008 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Monkey (Post 508536)
I'll probably write a nomination for The Kinks when I reach 100 posts if no one else is up for it.

:love:

The only bad thing about The Kink being nominated is the possiblity of them losing. I do not think I could handle it.

Piss Me Off 08-19-2008 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Monkey (Post 508536)
I'll probably write a nomination for The Kinks when I reach 100 posts if no one else is up for it.

No one else has nominated them, don't wait to get the posts by the way :)

boo boo 08-19-2008 04:05 PM

So yeah, I think we should consider this a victory for King Crimson. :)

Son of JayJamJah 08-20-2008 05:24 PM

Really this is more a victory for Boo Boo then anything else.

ProggyMan 08-20-2008 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 508311)
KC is the one band with a good sized discography that I still own every studio album from, because unlike most bands with more than 10 albums, even their weakest albums are still worth having.

For those wanting to get into this band, heres how I'd rank their work, in order.

Great:
ITCOTK
Red
Discipline
Lizard
THRAK
Starless and Bible Black
Three of a Perfect Pair
Larks Tongues in Aspic
The Power to Believe/Happy With What You Have to Be Happy With
In The Wake of Poseidon

Good:
Islands
Beat
ConstruKction of Light

I don't really like Starless that much TBH. I'd say it's just gooooood, but I'm probably alone in that.

FaSho 08-21-2008 05:30 PM

i think its about time for the next nomination...

sleepy jack 08-21-2008 10:15 PM

Yes. I'm not a fan of King Crimson but I think they deserve it. As far as influence/importance goes it's pretty unquestionable and alot of long-standing regulars here like them like boo boo and lespaul.

Son of JayJamJah 08-25-2008 07:27 AM

Should be a new potential nominee posted sometime today.

FaSho 08-25-2008 06:38 PM

has anyone nominated porcupine tree yet? or do i need to take care of that?

Piss Me Off 08-26-2008 05:49 AM

King Crimson get in, 2nd most popular so far!

Next up a beautiful nomination from LesPaul43

Wu Tang Clan

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i1..._tang_clan.jpg

Wuuuuu Tang Clan Ain't Nuthin Ta Fuck Wit.

The Monkey 08-26-2008 06:49 AM

I'm gonna keep my motivation as short as the nomination.

Gangsta rap = NO

Demonoid 08-26-2008 07:36 AM

First nomination where i need to listen to more before voting. I dislike most rap/hip-hop(although i do listen to some...) but I'm not goona let my bias take over yet. Lets see how it goes.

ProggyMan 08-26-2008 10:03 AM

I'll include the solo **** in my evaluation, so **** yes.

Urban Hat€monger ? 08-26-2008 11:09 AM

Of course Wu Tang belong in a hall of fame.

They were completely unique & original and about the only mainstream hip hop band worth listening to in the late 90s early 2000s. The amount of talent to come out of that band is just staggering. I think of them as the first hip hop supergroup doing for hip hop in the 90s what those rock supergroups did for rock music in the late 60s.

A definite yes from me.

boo boo 08-26-2008 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Monkey (Post 510822)
I'm gonna keep my motivation as short as the nomination.

Gangsta rap = NO

Good thing they're not gangsta rap then.

I vote Yes, certainly one of the most important and original rap acts, and a lot of them have admirable solo careers, GZA especially.

Son of JayJamJah 08-26-2008 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 510889)

I vote Yes,

They already lost, sorry Boo Boo it's Wu-Tangs turn.

And I would say this is a yes for sure. I look at the bands already nominated Beatles, Zeppelin, JD, KC, Elliott Smith we have a wide range of genres but no Hip-Hop and there is little doubt in my mind that Wu-Tang best represents this sites taste in rap.

I disagree with Urban's comparison to late 60's super groups however, (I'll take NWA in that category) they are more like the Eagles of Rap, (hear me out) a lot of individually talented members of a large group from the second generation of an emerging musical genre, many of which would go on to have excellent solo careers.

Either way a for sure Affirmative from me. Even though they are not a top 10 rap favorite of mine. Kudos to Les Paul for a gutsy nomination post and this one is for you MB.

lucifer_sam 08-26-2008 12:28 PM

I am unwilling to extract heads out of the asses of those who think that WTC is gangsta rap.

I don't really appreciate the veiled references to shitty 70s rock like the Eagles, but Wu-Tang is definitely one of the biggest pioneers of hip-hop (alongside N.W.A and The Beastie Boys). One of the biggest and best and one of my favorites.

Hell yes.

lucifer_sam 08-26-2008 12:30 PM

Somehow someone with zero posts decided to make their way into this thread. And voted no.

Fuck that.

Son of JayJamJah 08-26-2008 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 510902)
I am unwilling to extract heads out of the asses of those who think that WTC is gangsta rap.

I don't really appreciate the veiled references to shitty 70s rock like the Eagles, but Wu-Tang is definitely one of the biggest pioneers of hip-hop (alongside N.W.A and The Beastie Boys). One of the biggest and best and one of my favorites.

Hell yes.

On behalf of all that's left of my dignity I apologize for using an Eagles simile.

For the record I never have considered them gangsta and found that post to be another example fo why I am still in favor of a post count limit despite the fact it is not the popular consensus.

lucifer_sam 08-26-2008 12:40 PM

I was referring to The Monkey's post, but it was just a general statement anyways.

Big is the closest thing to gangsta rap I listen to. It just seems that when people hear a beat that wasn't ripped off a top 40 song or doesn't play like a cheesy synth pop song that it's considered gangsta.

Son of JayJamJah 08-26-2008 12:43 PM

Word (I believe that is the correct response based on popular nomenclature)

Ghostrider 08-26-2008 12:56 PM

I was going to vote no, but after reading all of the commentary here I will abstain from this nominee, I can't honestly say I would take the time and do a thorough review of Wu-Tang's music, I simply am not into the rap/hip-hop scene period and so I would not be an honest participant in this selection.

The Monkey 08-26-2008 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 510889)
Good thing they're not gangsta rap then.

I vote Yes, certainly one of the most important and original rap acts, and a lot of them have admirable solo careers, GZA especially.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 510902)
I am unwilling to extract heads out of the asses of those who think that WTC is gangsta rap.

I don't really appreciate the veiled references to shitty 70s rock like the Eagles, but Wu-Tang is definitely one of the biggest pioneers of hip-hop (alongside N.W.A and The Beastie Boys). One of the biggest and best and one of my favorites.

Hell yes.

I had an albums of theirs on my computer a while ago, and it sounded every bit as gangsta (in the bad sence) at NWA. Furthermore, their public appearance is also very reminiscent of contemporary acts who classified themselves with that term.

Just to make things clear, "gangsta" is a very loose genre for me, and isn't intrinsically bad. It simply denotes an anti-establishment mindset, though misogyny, homophobia and racism usually come with it, sadly. Wu-Tang Clan's songs tend to contain elements of the latter, which is why I voted no.


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