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Piss Me Off 07-11-2008 05:37 PM

Music Banter Hall Of Fame: Nominations Thread
Music Banter Hall Of Fame

Nominations Thread, PLEASE READ THIS FIRST!

An idea put forward by JayJamJah, the Hall of Fame will be an ongoing project that with time should honour the music artists that are loved by the collective members of MB.

How it works:

Each week an artist put forward by a member will be put up for a nomination in this thread with a poll. At the end of the week if the artist has received over 50% positive votes then they will be added onto a list at the end of this post and later be up for induction.

Artists who are nominated have to have a thread dedicated to them on these forums and have had their debut album released at least 10 years ago.

How to Nominate:

Any member with over 100 posts can nominate an artist which abide by the terms above.
To nominate an artist PM me saying what artist you want to nominate and add a case for why they should be added to the Hall of Fame. Then i'll post the case here and it will be decided on, if 2 members nominate the same artist i'll post both cases.
In the event of me receiving lots of nominations, please be patient for yours to be put up! (Well argued and thoughtful cases may be given priority ;))

How to Vote:

Once you've voted say who you voted for and why. Please try to avoid one word answers. Especially if you're voting negatively, as of course we want to see both sides of the story. This is aiming to create discussion after all!

After the first 6 nominations have been declared then the first induction thread will be made to decide who goes through.

Now get nominating! :thumb: The first nominee will be put up for voting shortly.

Already nominated

Led Zeppelin 20 to 7 (Eligible for renomination)
Joy Division 22 to 7 (Inducted)
Elliott Smith 16 to 13 (Eligible for renomination)
The Beatles 25 to 4 (Inducted)
King Crimson 23 to 5 (Inducted)
Wu-Tang Clan 19 to 19 (Eligible for renomination)
The Velvet Underground 28 to 4 (Inducted)
Radiohead 24 to 9 (Inducted)
The Kinks 29 to 4 (Inducted)
The Beach Boys 26 to 13 (Eligible for renominaton)
Public Enemy 24 to 16 (Inducted)
Frank Zappa 24 to 5 (Inducted)
The Clash 33 to 11 (Inducted)
Bob Dylan 33 to 3 (Inducted)
Pink Floyd 31 to 7 (Inducted)
Big Black 13 to 6 (Eligible for renominaton)
Tom Waits 25 to 4 (Inducted)
The Smiths 33 to 7 (Eligible for renominaton)
Chuck Berry 22 to 16 (Eligible for renominaton)
Capt. Beefheart 16 to 9 (Inducted)
Nick Cave 18 to 4 (Eligible for renomination)
Nirvana 23 to 12 (Eligible for renomination)
Blur 25 to 16 (Eligible for renomination)
Neil Young 25 to 4 (Eligible for renomination)
My Bloody Valentine 19 to 6 (Inducted)
John Zorn 12 to 2 (Inducted)
Bad Brains 23 to 11 (Inducted)
Sonic Youth 23 to 7 (Inducted)
Bob Marley and the Wailers 28 to 3 (Inducted)
Beastie Boys 19 to 6 (Inducted)
Buddy Holly 20 to 5 (Inducted)
The Notorious B.I.G. 15 to 9 (Eligible for renomination)
The Residents 11 to 4
Iron Maiden 24 to 10
Jimi Hendrix 40 to 0
Creedence Clearwater Revivial 18 to 4
Mission of Burma 7 to 6
Ludwig Van Beethoven 20 to 3
Red Hot Chili Peppers 17 to 10
Massive Attack 13 to 1
John Peel 11 to 1

Failed to be nominated
Yes 15 to 19
Porcupine Tree 10 to 13
At The Drive-In 8 to 22
Public Image Ltd 11 to 21
Neutral Milk Hotel 10 to 30
Echo and the Bunnymen 14 to 16
The Mars Volta 8 to 23
The Monks 14 to 15
Sigur Ros 12 to 14
Nickelback 14 to 35
Muse 13 to 23
Leftfield 11 to 22
Tool 34 to 35 (so close!)
The Dillinger Escape Plan 5 to 13
Bill Hicks 7 to 9
Belle And Sebastian 4 to 10
Guns N' Roses 13 to 17

Son of JayJamJah 07-14-2008 07:17 AM

Led Zeppelin

“In the days of my youth I was told what it means to be a man”

That’s the first line of “Good Times Bad Times” the opening track on Led Zeppelin’s eponymous 1969 debut. It was in the days of my youth that I was first exposed to Zeppelin. They entered my world just as I hit adolescence and brought my musical taste to maturation. The music was so raw and heavy at the time and the guitar riffs seemed to be and turns out were unforgettable. Turn on any of the first five Zeppelin LP’s and there are at least two songs even the most novice of listeners can identify right away. The notes stick with you.

Led Zeppelin was the biggest band in the world in the 1970’s. They sold out everywhere they went and delivered some of the most intense and electric shows that rock music ever has and ever will see. Their commitment to expanding the influences and range of Rock music was apparent from the start and helped usher in an era of exploration that has helped shape the musical landscape of today. They are members of 24 different recognized musical hall-of-fames world wide, lets add one more to the list.

It’s for all these reasons (and so many more) that I nominate Led Zeppelin for the Music Banter Hall of Fame.

Commercial Successes

Released Seven fantastic albums in seven years from 1969-1976. And two more following which enjoyed commercial success but are not as well remembered as those from the bands most prolific era.

All nine Platinum albums. IV has gone platinum 23 times. They rank among the top ten highest selling artists in Music History.

Ranked #1 Hard Rock Artist of All-Time By VH1
Ranked #4 Rock & Roll Artist of All-Time By VH1
Ranked #14 All-Time By Rolling Stone’s “Immortals”

Official Music Banter Zeppelin Thread

Here’s one of Urban’s very first posts, always a staunch critic of the band for their larger then life performances, even he shared some love for the Zep when asked about his favorite album by the band.


Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 31798)
Presence , simply because it`s not as bombastic as the rest of their stuff. I like it that it’s more introspective & personal rather than just songs about having sex & mythology. I like it that this is Led Zep at their most vunerable & peronally I think Achillies Last Stand is head & shoulders above Stairway To Heaven.

What’s wrong with Sex and Mythology. Those were my favorite to subjects at University.

Greatest Zeppelin Song MB Thread

It takes 15 songs before the same one gets mentioned twice. How’s that for a deep discography. Over 40 different Zeppelin songs are mentioned as personal favorites in all.

Ours is the folk music of the technological age.
-- Jimmy Page

Zeppelin is recognized mostly for their hard edge rock riffs and thunderous live performances. However they wrote several very good folk influenced songs including; Bron-Yr-Aur, That’s the Way, Thank You, Tangerine, Going to California and so many more.

My vocal style I haven't tried to copy from anyone. It just developed until it became the girlish whine it is today.
-- Robert Plant

Plants voice was another instrument that complimented the entire sound of the band. He was not a great lyricist or vocalist, but a perfect fit, as perfect as there has ever been.

Please consider all of these factors as well as your personal feelings when deciding whether or not Led Zeppelin should be included amongst the final nominees for our inaugural Music Banter Hall of Fame class. Thanks in advance to everyone here who reads, votes and submits their own opinions.

Piss Me Off 07-14-2008 01:11 PM

Well i had an idea that this would be the first choice, and it's a very difficult one for me.
First of all, i've never been a fan in particular of Led Zeppelin. Very early on a detested them yes, and later i've admired them and listened to them, but i've never actually felt the need to rave about them in the same way some people do. I think at first i pretty stupidly lumped it in with the whole 'hair-rock' thing, which i hated. The shreaky vocals, the solo's, the long-arse songs, i didn't do much for a fairly closed-minded indie fan like me. The 'No Stairway' bit in Wayne's World made me smug and happy.
Once i actually opened myself up to them though then i let some of the love in. Zep IV, though i still hate Stairway, is a damn solid album, consistent and always shifting in its intentions. It's the first album that really gets me though, mostly as to me it contains their 2 best songs, Dazed and Confused and Babe I'm Gonna Leave You (christ almighty they do rock my socks).
One thing i love about them is just how universal their appeal is. Put their songs on at a party and everyone will get into it and a load of them may know the words. School bands will imitate them to death and cover their songs. They announce one show in London and the world goes mad. I remember when a load of my mates hung a huge banner out of a school window with the Zep 4 emblems on it. Any band that can get this reaction out of people deserves heaps of respect off me, how many others bands out there can can you think of that are just THAT respected by everyone?
Fact of the matter is, i'm a stubborn arsehole and in the end even i have to say i like them. I may be a relatively casual listener to them, but if i want to let my hair down i could do a lot worse. It's a yes from me, i hope they make it.

sweet_nothing 07-14-2008 01:14 PM

I say no here's why

Demonoid 07-14-2008 01:57 PM

It's a yes from me.
One of the most consistent bands, with possible hits from every single album. It's very hard for me to choose their best song. I mean, i like almost all of their albums, song after song after song. Stairway will always be overrated, bcuz it's the number one song in Rock & Roll song in quite a few 'popular' lists(which people just tend to believe). Obviously, any song of such status would have been heard by every single person on earth and would automatically claim the overrated status.
The only thing i didn't like about them is stealing ideas and not giving credit.(That doesn't make them 'less creative/original' for me nor do i get put off by such things)
But I'm not sure how that was perceived back then.
Was it a normal thing to do in the 70s?

WaspStar 07-14-2008 04:06 PM

A solid "no" vote here.

ProggyMan 07-14-2008 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by sweet_nothing (Post 497575)
I say no here's why

Ooh, they imitated part of one song, how compelling.
Edit: Oh, not a big fan but yes.

Double X 07-14-2008 05:17 PM

I'm not a huge fan but you have to be deaf or just dumb not to vote yes for Zeppilen. You can say they have bad vocals and songwriting, overrated pioneering or whatever. But in the end they made some great hard rock and had one of the best guitarists, bassists, and drummers ever. Unless your hall of fame has 10 bands in it, LZ should definitely be in.

jackhammer 07-15-2008 01:37 PM

I am going to say no Im afraid. They bore the arse off me and I like maybe five/six tracks by them. On virtue of album sales and popularity they probably WILL go in but I never dug them way back then and my opinion has never changed.

lucifer_sam 07-16-2008 01:27 AM

****in' A.

I love Led Zeppelin. I could go on for hours about how they are my favorite hard rock act ever, but I don't want to bore the pants off everyone. Just know this: If you hated everything Led Zeppelin ever did and thought they were utter trash, it should still be difficult to vote no. Their influence on modern rock is incredible. Though it would be inconceivable to say that the world wouldn't have any hard rock without Led Zeppelin, it would certainly be much, MUCH lamer.

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