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Janszoon 02-22-2010 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Vancouver (Post 829626)
Now slamming OK Computer. Your on a role.

Please tell your your opinion of more mainstream stuff you would endorse?

I am? I haven't said a single thing about OK Computer in this entire thread. :confused:

Vancouver 02-22-2010 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 829634)
I am? I haven't said a single thing about OK Computer in this entire thread. :confused:

ahh ok my bad, read it wrong then. Sorry.

Janszoon 02-22-2010 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Violent & Funky (Post 829627)
It was a critically well received album that went 2x platinum. It was released in 1991 when alternative rock was exploding onto the scene and Soundgarden is one of those pioneers of the Seattle grunge sound.

Heh. Yes, I was in high school when it was released and I remember the era very well. I also remember that Soundgarden was definitely seen as more of a second-tier alternative band at the time. True it went double platinum eventually but I doubt that happened in 1991, it more likely happened slowly over time. As far as the critical response goes, I don't remember it being hailed as really spectacular back then. Maybe I'm wrong, but looking it up on Wikipedia I see a couple B's in the critical reception area so maybe I'm not far off.

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Originally Posted by Violent & Funky (Post 829627)
Maybe it is not a classic on the same level as Siamese Dream and I should have said Nevermind

I'm not sure what "a classic on the same level as Siamese Dream" means. I was always under the impression that even Smashing Pumpkins fans considered Siamese Dream kind of a weak album.


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Originally Posted by Violent & Funky (Post 829627)
(Warning: tangent)

What determines when an album has not "aged well"? I see this written all the time and was wondering what is meant by that phrase. Thanks...

It just means it sounds very of it's time and not in a good way.

Vancouver 02-22-2010 02:17 PM

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I'm not sure what "a classic on the same level as Siamese Dream" means. I was always under the impression that even Smashing Pumpkins fans considered Siamese Dream kind of a weak album.
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Wrong. Sucks and now weak. Weak? How?

Janszoon 02-22-2010 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Vancouver (Post 829654)
Wrong. Sucks and now weak. Weak? How?

Weak as in not a strong album. I was never much of a Smashing Pumpkins fan but my understanding from people I knew who were was that Siamese Dream was kind of a let down after Gish while Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness was more of the follow up their fans were hoping for.

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-22-2010 02:32 PM

I thought it was the other way around.

I can remember Mellon Collie being slated, and rightly so.
It's a horrible record.

Janszoon 02-22-2010 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 829667)
I thought it was the other way around.

I can remember Mellon Collie being slated, and rightly so.
It's a horrible record.

That's not how I remember it but maybe the response was different on different sides of the Atlantic. I do agree with you that Mellon Collie was horrible though.

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-22-2010 02:36 PM

My view maybe a bit tainted because I did used to read Melody Maker back at the time when it was deputy edited by Everett True who thought Corgan was the anti-christ :laughing:

Guybrush 02-22-2010 02:38 PM

Urban also brushed upon a good point a couple of pages back. It's not hard to figure out what the classic albums from the past are. Often, it's already well established and has been for years if not decades. You just have to look it up. I tend to like those old albums and think most of them are classics for good reason. Comparatively, discovering new (as in quite recent) music I like usually includes digging through more stuff I don't like.

It doesn't necessarily say anything about the overall quality, but at least it's another possible reason why some people tend to think so.

Vancouver 02-22-2010 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 829665)
Weak as in not a strong album. I was never much of a Smashing Pumpkins fan but my understanding from people I knew who were was that Siamese Dream was kind of a let down after Gish while Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness was more of the follow up their fans were hoping for.

Most fans regard it as their best one.


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