The Official "Music Was So Much Better in the Glorious Days of Yore" Thread

**Janszoon** · 02-22-2010, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Vancouver

Now slamming OK Computer. Your on a role.

Please tell your your opinion of more mainstream stuff you would endorse?

I am? I haven't said a single thing about OK Computer in this entire thread.

Vancouver · 02-22-2010, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I am? I haven't said a single thing about OK Computer in this entire thread.

ahh ok my bad, read it wrong then. Sorry.

**Janszoon** · 02-22-2010, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Violent & Funky

It was a critically well received album that went 2x platinum. It was released in 1991 when alternative rock was exploding onto the scene and Soundgarden is one of those pioneers of the Seattle grunge sound.

Heh. Yes, I was in high school when it was released and I remember the era very well. I also remember that Soundgarden was definitely seen as more of a second-tier alternative band at the time. True it went double platinum eventually but I doubt that happened in 1991, it more likely happened slowly over time. As far as the critical response goes, I don't remember it being hailed as really spectacular back then. Maybe I'm wrong, but looking it up on Wikipedia I see a couple B's in the critical reception area so maybe I'm not far off.

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Originally Posted by Violent & Funky

Maybe it is not a classic on the same level as Siamese Dream and I should have said Nevermind

I'm not sure what "a classic on the same level as Siamese Dream" means. I was always under the impression that even Smashing Pumpkins fans considered Siamese Dream kind of a weak album.

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Originally Posted by Violent & Funky

(Warning: tangent)

What determines when an album has not "aged well"? I see this written all the time and was wondering what is meant by that phrase. Thanks...

It just means it sounds very of it's time and not in a good way.

Vancouver · 02-22-2010, 02:17 PM

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I'm not sure what "a classic on the same level as Siamese Dream" means. I was always under the impression that even Smashing Pumpkins fans considered Siamese Dream kind of a weak album.
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Wrong. Sucks and now weak. Weak? How?

**Janszoon** · 02-22-2010, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Vancouver

Wrong. Sucks and now weak. Weak? How?

Weak as in not a strong album. I was never much of a Smashing Pumpkins fan but my understanding from people I knew who were was that Siamese Dream was kind of a let down after Gish while Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness was more of the follow up their fans were hoping for.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 02-22-2010, 02:32 PM

I thought it was the other way around.

I can remember Mellon Collie being slated, and rightly so.
It's a horrible record.

**Janszoon** · 02-22-2010, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

I thought it was the other way around.

I can remember Mellon Collie being slated, and rightly so.
It's a horrible record.

That's not how I remember it but maybe the response was different on different sides of the Atlantic. I do agree with you that Mellon Collie was horrible though.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 02-22-2010, 02:36 PM

My view maybe a bit tainted because I did used to read Melody Maker back at the time when it was deputy edited by Everett True who thought Corgan was the anti-christ

Guybrush · 02-22-2010, 02:38 PM

Urban also brushed upon a good point a couple of pages back. It's not hard to figure out what the classic albums from the past are. Often, it's already well established and has been for years if not decades. You just have to look it up. I tend to like those old albums and think most of them are classics for good reason. Comparatively, discovering new (as in quite recent) music I like usually includes digging through more stuff I don't like.

It doesn't necessarily say anything about the overall quality, but at least it's another possible reason why some people tend to think so.

Vancouver · 02-22-2010, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Weak as in not a strong album. I was never much of a Smashing Pumpkins fan but my understanding from people I knew who were was that Siamese Dream was kind of a let down after Gish while Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness was more of the follow up their fans were hoping for.

Most fans regard it as their best one.

02-22-2010, 02:32 PM	#106 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	I thought it was the other way around. I can remember Mellon Collie being slated, and rightly so. It's a horrible record. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

02-22-2010, 02:36 PM	#108 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	My view maybe a bit tainted because I did used to read Melody Maker back at the time when it was deputy edited by Everett True who thought Corgan was the anti-christ __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

02-22-2010, 02:38 PM	#109 (permalink)
Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	Urban also brushed upon a good point a couple of pages back. It's not hard to figure out what the classic albums from the past are. Often, it's already well established and has been for years if not decades. You just have to look it up. I tend to like those old albums and think most of them are classics for good reason. Comparatively, discovering new (as in quite recent) music I like usually includes digging through more stuff I don't like. It doesn't necessarily say anything about the overall quality, but at least it's another possible reason why some people tend to think so. __________________ Something Completely Different