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Old 02-27-2010, 07:31 PM   #181 (permalink)
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Ah, I get what you mean now. There's a great deal of amazing stuff out there that fits the bill IMHO.
can recommend some?
At the moment I only know the Mainstream stuff...
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Old 02-27-2010, 07:58 PM   #182 (permalink)
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I just skimmed this essay but it looks like you don't actually understand the topic of this thread. It not is about specific styles of music, it's about music overall.
I agree with Boo said below and that is how I feel about most genres overall, that it is either fantastic, or overated, unbearable racket. But there are a few genres that I totally dismiss, and most of these are more popular ones today. I do understand the post, and I generally feel that way, but there is only a few exceptions of currents bands out today that I like that stops from me fully committing to make such an accusation as stated in the title of this thread.

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... Eh. Post Punk for me is either fantastic or overrated, unbearable racket.

I put Joy Division, The Cure, Wire, Gang of Four, Public Image Ltd and Killing Joke in the former, Ecco & The Bunneymen and Jesus and Mary Chain in the latter. I don't really have an opinion on The Fall. By far the worst band to ever come out of this movement though is The Raincoats, ...

Most post punk revivalism I've heard is absolutely rancid....

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It's amazing to me that people are able to hate entire genres of music.
Yeah it's amazing to me too when people hate the genre I'm into, but when they hate the same thing I dislike then becomes amazing why they allow that crap to be made in the first place.
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Old 02-28-2010, 02:11 AM   #183 (permalink)
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You know what was great and didn't stick around long enough: Pop-punk.


Give me more Alkaline Trio songs like that and I am a happy man...
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Old 02-28-2010, 07:39 PM   #184 (permalink)
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can recommend some?
At the moment I only know the Mainstream stuff...
Here's a few of the top of my head, all from within the past decade:

Dälek—Abandoned Language
Mr. Lif—I, Phantom
Aesop Rock—Labor Days
Madvillain—Madvillainy
Cannibal Ox—In the Cold Vein
Busdriver—Fear of a Black Tangent
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Old 02-28-2010, 07:50 PM   #185 (permalink)
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Cheers, i'll check that out later tonight, or tommorrow
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Old 02-28-2010, 08:03 PM   #186 (permalink)
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It's amazing to me that people are able to hate entire genres of music.
I myself am well aware of my own distaste for metal. I think some things just really aren't for everyone, and that's perfectly fine. I used to bash metal, and call it crap, but I've come to realize that that is a complete waste of my life. I understand that within the confines of metal, there are good and bad bands, just like every other genre, and when metal comes up as a conversation piece, I keep that in mind before I make myself look like a prick.
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Old 02-28-2010, 08:14 PM   #187 (permalink)
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I myself am well aware of my own distaste for metal. I think some things just really aren't for everyone, and that's perfectly fine. I used to bash metal, and call it crap, but I've come to realize that that is a complete waste of my life. I understand that within the confines of metal, there are good and bad bands, just like every other genre, and when metal comes up as a conversation piece, I keep that in mind before I make myself look like a prick.


Hit the nail right on the head, you did.
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Old 02-28-2010, 08:49 PM   #188 (permalink)
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I myself am well aware of my own distaste for metal. I think some things just really aren't for everyone, and that's perfectly fine. I used to bash metal, and call it crap, but I've come to realize that that is a complete waste of my life. I understand that within the confines of metal, there are good and bad bands, just like every other genre, and when metal comes up as a conversation piece, I keep that in mind before I make myself look like a prick.
Well said. I do think that metal is the hardest of all forms of music to get into, just becase of the sheer aggression of it all.

I used to think the same thing about rap/hip-hop, based soley on the crap that is played on the radio and stuff that makes it into the mainstream (master p, comes to mind) After a little digging though, I have managed to find many many hip-hop artists that I listen to as regularly as some of my metal and other music.


back to the topic of the thread though, why can't music be as good as it was in the early '90s? blind melon, Sublime, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Jesus & Mary Chain etc....
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Old 02-28-2010, 09:04 PM   #189 (permalink)
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back to the topic of the thread though, why can't music be as good as it was in the early '90s? blind melon, Sublime, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Jesus & Mary Chain etc....
Really? Like I indicated in the OP, my position is that music as a whole doesn't really get better or worse, but even if I did think that way I can't imagine holding up most of those bands as examples of how great the early 90s were.
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Old 02-28-2010, 09:06 PM   #190 (permalink)
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The very thought that good music would stop being made at any point in time or general date is completely ignorant.
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