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Old 06-03-2010, 09:02 PM   #311 (permalink)
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LOL, of all the ones he listed the one with the least staying power is blink 182?
I'd remember rise against over Blink 182. I didn't bother mentioning the other two as I hadn't listened to them.
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Old 06-03-2010, 09:08 PM   #312 (permalink)
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I like Rise Against, but they didn't really do anything new. At least blink 182 was part of the pioneering wave of pop punk...
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Old 06-03-2010, 09:10 PM   #313 (permalink)
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LOL, of all the ones he listed the one with the least staying power is blink 182?
No, but it is the one that attracted the most controversy in this thread
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Old 06-03-2010, 09:11 PM   #314 (permalink)
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At least blink 182 was part of the pioneering wave of pop punk...
Er... what?
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Old 06-03-2010, 09:18 PM   #315 (permalink)
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Er... what?
No?
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I don't know. I never really saw them as pioneering anything.
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Old 06-03-2010, 09:25 PM   #317 (permalink)
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I don't know. I never really saw them as pioneering anything.
They can't be thrown in with Green Day and The Offspring as part of that wave in the 90s? They helped make "punk" a "pop" genre (for better or for worse, I enjoy some if it)...
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They can't be thrown in with Green Day and The Offspring as part of that wave in the 90s? They helped make "punk" a "pop" genre (for better or for worse, I enjoy some if it)...
Not really. Their big break was several years after those bands and it's not like those bands were innovators to begin with.
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Not really. Their big break was several years after those bands and it's not like those bands were innovators to begin with.
Who else brought punk so mainstream (not trying to be a smartass... I'm learning)? And the "Year Southern California Pop Punk Broke" was 1994, the same year blink released Chesire Cat...
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Who else brought punk so mainstream (not trying to be a smartass... I'm learning)?
Green Day and Offspring like you said. But like I indicated before, even though those two brought punk some mainstream attention in the early to mid 90s, they were hardly innovators. Pop-punk existed long before them.

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And the "Year Southern California Pop Punk Broke" was 1994, the same year blink released Chesire Cat...
That may be true but hardly anyone was listening to them back then. Blink 182 didn't make it big until 1998.
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