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Old 02-25-2010, 12:34 PM   #21 (permalink)
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"In so many ways it's turned our business back into a singles business," says Ken Levitan, Kid Rock's manager. Mr. Levitan says the rise of iTunes is far from being a boon to the industry; instead, he calls it "part of the death knell of the music business."


Oh no...... It's a 'part of the death knell of the music business' that people can choose the songs they want to buy?

What a load of horse shit. Like I said, put out an album worth buying and people will but it. Not a collection of songs with one or two good ones and a bunch of filler to make up the rest.

The music industry has always been a seller's market. I can remember for years being overcharged for CDs. Seeing singles released in loads of different formats all with different tracks so you had to spend about the price of a whole album just to get 3 or 4 new songs you didn't have on B sides.

Now it's not, now it's a buyers market. So either adapt to it or fuck off
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Old 02-25-2010, 01:01 PM   #22 (permalink)
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That's exactly right. When companies say they lost X number of dollars from downloads, that's based on the assumption that every single person who downloaded it would have bought it anyway.

That's obviously not the case. I use torrents merely as a preview. If I like the album, I'll buy it. If not, then too bad, but I delete the music.

And if you look at the number of people who are in college/young kids etc who simply don't have the money, then the record companies can't possibly count that as "lost income" because these people don't have the money to buy albums in the first place.
I concur with that. I'm slightly different to you in that I do download stuff to burn to CD - just a modern version of the old blank cassette LP taped off a mate. Of course the beauty now is that I'm not limited to what mates own but can blag the stuff off people I don't even now. However, as a record collector (if you like) that would never be my sole (or even main) source of music. So I use it to fill in gaps in my collection. These are LPs that would only make it onto "the list" of stuff I might pick up later when/if I get around to them. In the event that I did and bought them, then they take the place of other stuff I would have bought instead.

But the whole thing of this extra consumption is it fires my love of music and keeps me in the game. Prior to torrents I had a few spells where I stopped buying music pretty much entirely. Since them my buying has stayed at a really high level. I would suggest that I'm fairly typical.
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Old 02-25-2010, 01:08 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Actually I'm not a "record collector" as such, the point is that a whole shelf full of blank CD cases looks ugly, no-one wants that. Whereas a few scattered about the place look fine and it's a sensible way to fill gaps in back catalogues on a modest income.
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