Beefs

~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ · 03-29-2010, 10:50 PM

When musicians fight, either in a war of words or in some kind of physical altercation, it is known ('specially in the hip hop community) as a beef. A well known example is the infamous Biggie Smalls/2pac beef that ended in both of their deaths. Discuss some of the most interesting beefs here.

One that's always struck me was the

Mr. Bungle/Red Hot Chili Peppers BEEF

RHCP frontman Anthony Kiedis saw Mike Patton performing with Faith No More and somehow got it into his head that Patton was imitating his style (and anybody who knows Patton's work knows it that couldn't be farther from the truth)

There was further conflict when Patton's later band, Mr. Bungle, was scheduled to release their album California around the same time as the RHCP album Californication. This resulted in an angry Kiedis pulling Mr. Bungle from several shows in Europe, shows for which Bungle had been booked months in advance.

From my tone it may be obvious who i'm siding with here. I think Patton put it best with “Our agent was in the process of booking these festivals, and it was becoming apparent that we'd landed some pretty good ones—one in France, another one in Holland, some big-name festivals. Turns out someone's holding a grudge! We were booted off several bills, specifically because Anthony Kiedis did not want us on the bill. He threatened to pull the Chili Peppers if Mr. Bungle was on the bill. Now, rationalize that one! That's so ****ing pathetic! I mean, this guy's selling a million records! We are not even a speck of dust on this guy's ass! What's the f*cking problem?"

Mr. Bungle never really bit back, and disbanded shortly afterwards.

Winner

Anthony Kiedis of The Red Hot Chili Peppers

Loser (tragically)

Mr. Bungle

duga · 03-29-2010, 10:52 PM

Well...only because I am listening to Smashing Pumpkins right now...

Billy Corgan vs. Kurt Cobain

Yep, fighting over a woman. Courtney Love, no less. Gross. A stain on one of my favorite musicians (Billy...I like Nirvana ok but I could care less about Kurt).

EDIT: Man, you really put some time into that one. I'll post the winner of my beef:

Winner: Billy Corgan

Because he didn't end up with Courtney Love, who would have killed his ass had he done so.

Insane Guest · 03-29-2010, 10:56 PM

It's not really a fight between musicians, but I think one of the more surprising fights was between Iron Maiden and Sharon & Kelly Osbourne. Find the story here:

Iron Maiden Pelted With Eggs At Final Ozzfest Performance - News Story | Music, Celebrity, Artist News | MTV News

~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ · 03-29-2010, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duga

Well...only because I am listening to Smashing Pumpkins right now...

Billy Corgan vs. Kurt Cobain

Yep, fighting over a woman. Courtney Love, no less. Gross. A stain on one of my favorite musicians (Billy...I like Nirvana ok but I could care less about Kurt).

When did they fued over this?! Kurt's been dead since 1994 and he was with Courtney long before Billy ever came onto the scene.

duga · 03-29-2010, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Conan

When did they fued over this?! Kurt's been dead since 1994 and he was with Courtney long before Billy ever came onto the scene.

Billy dated her for a short time before Kurt, right around the time Gish came out.

captaincaptain · 03-29-2010, 11:02 PM

There are two feuds, Johnny & Joey Ramone and John & Tom Fogerty that I always thought were unfortunate since each feud had one (Joey & Tom) die before making amends. The Fogerty one is a little personal with me since I don't talk with my brother anymore and I probably should.

More obvious feuds like Neil Young vs. Lynyrd Skynyrd and Liam vs. Noel Gallagher are interesting since one spawned two awesome songs and the other makes for great entertainment.

~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ · 03-29-2010, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by duga

Billy dated her for a short time before Kurt, right around the time Gish came out.

I knew he had dated her (I always thought it was after Kurt had died), but i've never seen anything about them fighting over her.

captaincaptain · 03-29-2010, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by duga

Yep, fighting over a woman. Courtney Love, no less.

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Does she qualify as a woman? I know she gave birth and all but I always thought of her as a mirror people did lines of coke off of.

duga · 03-29-2010, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Conan

I knew he had dated her (I always thought it was after Kurt had died), but i've never seen anything about them fighting over her.

Yeah, I don't think it was talked about too much since Kurt and Courtney were THE couple of the time, but it surely happened.

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Originally Posted by captaincaptain

Does she qualify as a woman? I know she gave birth and all but I always thought of her as a mirror people did lines of coke off of.

Maybe you are right...I'll just refer to Courtney as "it" from now on...

mr_weed · 03-30-2010, 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duga

Well...only because I am listening to Smashing Pumpkins right now...

Billy Corgan vs. Kurt Cobain

Yep, fighting over a woman. Courtney Love, no less. Gross. A stain on one of my favorite musicians (Billy...I like Nirvana ok but I could care less about Kurt).

EDIT: Man, you really put some time into that one. I'll post the winner of my beef:

Winner: Billy Corgan

Because he didn't end up with Courtney Love, who would have killed his ass had he done so.

On the strength of that surely we the public at large lost this one!

03-29-2010, 10:50 PM	#1 (permalink)
~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,538	Beefs When musicians fight, either in a war of words or in some kind of physical altercation, it is known ('specially in the hip hop community) as a beef. A well known example is the infamous Biggie Smalls/2pac beef that ended in both of their deaths. Discuss some of the most interesting beefs here. One that's always struck me was the Mr. Bungle/Red Hot Chili Peppers BEEF RHCP frontman Anthony Kiedis saw Mike Patton performing with Faith No More and somehow got it into his head that Patton was imitating his style (and anybody who knows Patton's work knows it that couldn't be farther from the truth) There was further conflict when Patton's later band, Mr. Bungle, was scheduled to release their album California around the same time as the RHCP album Californication. This resulted in an angry Kiedis pulling Mr. Bungle from several shows in Europe, shows for which Bungle had been booked months in advance. From my tone it may be obvious who i'm siding with here. I think Patton put it best with “Our agent was in the process of booking these festivals, and it was becoming apparent that we'd landed some pretty good ones—one in France, another one in Holland, some big-name festivals. Turns out someone's holding a grudge! We were booted off several bills, specifically because Anthony Kiedis did not want us on the bill. He threatened to pull the Chili Peppers if Mr. Bungle was on the bill. Now, rationalize that one! That's so ***ing pathetic! I mean, this guy's selling a million records! We are not even a speck of dust on this guy's ass! What's the fcking problem?" Mr. Bungle never really bit back, and disbanded shortly afterwards. Winner Anthony Kiedis of The Red Hot Chili Peppers Loser (tragically) Mr. Bungle Last edited by someonecompletelyrandom; 03-29-2010 at 10:57 PM.

03-29-2010, 10:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
duga MB quadrant's JM Vincent Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 3,762	Well...only because I am listening to Smashing Pumpkins right now... Billy Corgan vs. Kurt Cobain Yep, fighting over a woman. Courtney Love, no less. Gross. A stain on one of my favorite musicians (Billy...I like Nirvana ok but I could care less about Kurt). EDIT: Man, you really put some time into that one. I'll post the winner of my beef: Winner: Billy Corgan Because he didn't end up with Courtney Love, who would have killed his ass had he done so. __________________ Confusion will be my epitaph... Last edited by duga; 03-29-2010 at 10:59 PM.

03-29-2010, 10:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
Insane Guest Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: CA Posts: 1,322	It's not really a fight between musicians, but I think one of the more surprising fights was between Iron Maiden and Sharon & Kelly Osbourne. Find the story here: Iron Maiden Pelted With Eggs At Final Ozzfest Performance - News Story \| Music, Celebrity, Artist News \| MTV News

03-29-2010, 11:02 PM	#6 (permalink)
captaincaptain I Am Become Death Metal Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Stankonia Posts: 695	There are two feuds, Johnny & Joey Ramone and John & Tom Fogerty that I always thought were unfortunate since each feud had one (Joey & Tom) die before making amends. The Fogerty one is a little personal with me since I don't talk with my brother anymore and I probably should. More obvious feuds like Neil Young vs. Lynyrd Skynyrd and Liam vs. Noel Gallagher are interesting since one spawned two awesome songs and the other makes for great entertainment.