Music Banter

Music Banter (https://www.musicbanter.com/)
-   General Music (https://www.musicbanter.com/general-music/)
-   -   What's the general consensus on Mike Patton here? (https://www.musicbanter.com/general-music/49319-whats-general-consensus-mike-patton-here.html)

instereowhereavailable 05-12-2010 01:24 AM

What's the general consensus on Mike Patton here?
 
I'm a newbie, don't hold it against me. I've been listening to Patton and all of his projects from the good (Faith No More, Fantomas) to the bad (Mike Patton solo/Mondo Cane) for most of my life. I know not everyone likes him, but is he generally respected here?

mr dave 05-12-2010 01:41 AM

yup no need for idolatry though. he's just a man after all hahaha

though i think i like Tomahawk best at this point. FNM is great straight across the board, i'm hit or miss on Bungle, gotta be in the right mood for Fantomas aside from The Director's Cut, Peeping Tom was poo aside from 2 maybe 3 tracks, still haven't checked out Lovage - hesitant after PT, General Patton vs. The Executioners is also ace in my book.

instereowhereavailable 05-12-2010 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 866125)
yup no need for idolatry though. he's just a man after all hahaha

though i think i like Tomahawk best at this point. FNM is great straight across the board, i'm hit or miss on Bungle, gotta be in the right mood for Fantomas aside from The Director's Cut, Peeping Tom was poo aside from 2 maybe 3 tracks, still haven't checked out Lovage - hesitant after PT, General Patton vs. The Executioners is also ace in my book.

Lovage is good. It's different from anything else he is involved with. Tomahawk is great too. Peeping Tom was a disappointment, I agree with you there.

Janszoon 05-12-2010 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by instereowhereavailable (Post 866119)
I'm a newbie, don't hold it against me. I've been listening to Patton and all of his projects from the good (Faith No More, Fantomas) to the bad (Mike Patton solo/Mondo Cane) for most of my life. I know not everyone likes him, but is he generally respected here?

I guess so. I know I'm a fan. Though truth be told I'm not as interested in him as I used to be. Recently I even found myself slightly disappointed when he showed as a guest vocalist on an album I was listening to that was exactly the type of album you'd expect him to show up on and he gave exactly the type of vocal performance you'd expect him to give.

That said, the man has released a lot of great stuff over the course of his career and in my mind that includes Peeping Tom. I'm surprised by all the hate on that one.

TheCunningStunt 05-12-2010 05:41 AM

I think I've noticed that a lot of people around here like Faith No More, not so sure about Mike Patton as a soloist or person or whatever.. Although I'm not a fan of FNM.

MrBlueShirt 05-12-2010 08:04 AM

The album he did with Dillinger Escape Plan was awesome.

Irony is a Dead Scene was the name of it.

RonaldSays 05-12-2010 09:07 AM

Patton is a great vocalist. Probably one of the best out there. I don't always like all his projects but the man sure is creative. He just put out a new record "Mondo Cane" full of italian songs. Interesting to say the least.
And he's a good performer. He puts on a lively show.

ElephantSack 05-12-2010 09:49 AM

From what I've seen, Mike Patton is generally respected throughout the forum. Of course, not everybody was born to agree. Some people worship him. Some people don't care for him. Some people don't know who he is.

Mr. Bungle is my favorite project involving Mike Patton, seconded by either Faith No More or Tomahawk. Irony is a Dead Scene and General Patton vs. The X-Ecutioners are both really good collaborations. Lovage is good if you feel like listening to something that's going to make you want to fuck somebody and then laugh your ass off. Fantomas's best work was Director's Cut, and that's really good. I also got one of his solo albums called Pranzo Oltranzista. It took a little while to grow on me, but it eventually did.

The only things I haven't heard from him that I'm aware of are Moonchild, his work with Zu, and I never really looked into Peeping Tom. I've heard a track or two, but that's about it.

sidewinder 05-12-2010 11:51 AM

I agree with much of what has been said here. I've been a Patton fan since I first saw Faith No More's 'Epic' video on MTV about 20 years ago. Then I discovered Mr. Bungle, then his other side projects and so on. At one time I definitely had the fanboy attitude of "Everything Mike Patton touches turns to gold." But then I heard Adult Themes for Voice. :laughing:

What I always liked about him was not just his voice (though he is definitely my favorite vocalist) but also that his projects were experimental in nature, kinda wacky and different. I always look forward to new projects coming out, but over the years the wow factor has faded a bit. I'm sure some of it has to do with aging and being less creative, but also that I'm used to his voice and it's just not as impressive as it used to be (age again can be a factor here). It seems he either sings the way you expect him too (not really anything wrong with that - unless it's a new project in which it might be nice to hear a new approach) or he over-sings (Mondo Cane, to an extent).

Still I'm a big fan, but have come to terms with the reality that everything he touches does not in fact turn to gold. I yearn for something truly different again. I'd love to hear more Tomahawk (just lighter on the Indian themes, please), as the rock-based stuff I think is where he shines. There's more emotion and less chance of over-singing (ie crooning). I'd love another Lovage album, but it could end up on the level of Peeping Tom (good but not great). I'd love another Peeping Tom (there was supposed to be two), but it could wind up as tame as the first.

General Patton vs. The X-Ecutioners - didn't do much for me really, though I should give it another chance
Kaada / Patton - This was pretty good but doesn't really have much replay value.
Maldoror - terrible
The Dillinger Escape Plan - Irony Is a Dead Scene - awesome.
Fantômas - Love Director's Cut, rest is ok
A Perfect Place OST - A little underwhelming and short but not bad
Crank: High Voltage OST - This was actually a nice surprise, nice experimentalism and craziness, too bad it's a bunch of short tracks that aren't more developed.

Faith No More are one of the few reunion bands that I'd like to see record new material. At the same time, it scares me a little. I just feel like that's all I ever really wanted out of Mike Patton - for him to rock and spazz out once in a while.

hip hop bunny hop 05-12-2010 03:27 PM

Mike Patton is a man who puts novelty above quality, consistently. The bands that accompany his antics are generally ****, however that seems to be the point; make the music boring, dull and pointlessly novel so that everyone pays attention to the vocals.

His work with the Dillenger Escape Plan seems to the summary of his work; pointless, "look at what I can do!" novelty.

I wish him the worst.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:53 AM.


© 2003-2024 Advameg, Inc.