What Is Your Definition Of A "Sell Out"?

[rammetal7]

Post what you think a "sell out" in music is, how you think an artist can become one and if you want, an artist that you think has sold out.

To me, a sell out is somebody who betrays a cause for personal advancement.
Ex: a band says they would never sign on to a major record label, but they later did, this makes them sellouts.

I searched for a thread like this and did not find 1.
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[FaSho]

Selling out is when a band becomes popular obv

[James]

When a band changes their style in order to be accepted by a mainstream audience.

[TheCunningStunt]

Originally Posted by rammetal7

Ex: a band says they would never sign on to a major record label, but they later did, this makes them sellouts.

That. And a band that makes a record with 3 singles on it and a load of bland boring filler, in an attempt to sell.

I think in 4 posts we've managed to sum it up.

[Zer0]

Originally Posted by james1

When a band changes their style in order to be accepted by a mainstream audience.

Exactly. But i suppose a better way to put it would be when a band compromises their style in order to be accepted by a mainstream audience.







Yeah close this thread it's only going to go around in circles.

[sidewinder]

Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt

That. And a band that makes a record with 3 singles on it and a load of bland boring filler, in an attempt to sell.

I don't think anyone would purposely put bland boring filler on an album just because they feel they have 3 hit singles. They may not put much effort into it all and concentrate on some, but to purposely use filler...I don't know.

Agreed with the general consensus though, except for this but I sense sarcasm:

Originally Posted by FaSho

Selling out is when a band becomes popular obv

[TheCunningStunt]

Originally Posted by sidewinder

I don't think anyone would purposely put bland boring filler on an album just because they feel they have 3 hit singles. They may not put much effort into it all and concentrate on some, but to purposely use filler...I don't know.

Maybe they don't perceive it as filler, but I think bands deviate from their style and tone it down. Their style and energy is what made the band great, which just makes the non singles boring bland filler crap.

[gunnels]

Somebody give me an example of a sell out because as far as I'm concerned it doesn't exist.

[The Bullet]

Originally Posted by Zero1986

Exactly. But i suppose a better way to put it would be when a band compromises their style in order to be accepted by a mainstream audience.

Depends on the level of comprimise. If the band doesn't even like the music that much, that's definately selling out. If the band leaves one or two slow and long songs off of an album, that's debatable. I think the line is somewhere in-between.

To me, Muse is an example of a band that has sold out. I mean, the video for their newest song has Twilight clips. (Music videos, as well as the music, is art. I think I should restate: if a band comprimises their art.) That's obviously "comprimising", if not completely ruining their music video.

[TheCunningStunt]

Originally Posted by gunnels

Somebody give me an example of a sell out because as far as I'm concerned it doesn't exist.

Saying the'd never sign to a major label but did: Green Day
Compromising their style of music to suit a mainstream audience: Kings Of Leon