TheFolkSlave I loved that song, I downloaded the album as I was listening to it. It was so smooth and so calming, a great voice too. 10/10
sleepy jack
12-24-2010 10:22 PM
Eh, I've heard a lot of artists doing the exact same thing, some doing it better. I mean it's not bad but I wouldn't listen to it ever again. 4/10
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Originally Posted by xEMGx
(Post 974694)
Well the "crap" might be crap to YOUR ears, but it might be considered great music by another person.
Haven't you ever heard the expression: "One man's junk is another man's treasure"?
It can apply here too. I could say the things you like are complete crap, but there is something that you obviously like about them that I don't hear.
It's kind of ignorant that you would generalize all the Other R&B/Hip Hop crap, when you most likely haven't heard all of it. If that Music you call crap was indeed crap, it wouldn't be popular today now would it?
If you really want to hear the difference, use something called your ears.
Well for one you're now putting words in his/her mouth. He/she is not saying all r&b/hip hop is crap, he/she is saying all the stuff on the radio is, which is a pretty fair statement to make because mainstream music of any kind (be it rock or rap) is garbage, with very few exceptions.
There's also a connotative meaning that I think you're ignoring just to be argumentative, when people refer to radio hip hop/r&b they're typically referring specifically to crap like 50 cent and all that stuff that is commonly viewed as garbage by people on music message boards, even though artists like Outkast are mainstream they're typically exempt because again, there exceptions to the rule and not what one thinks of when they think of mainstream hip hop/r&b.
Insane Guest
12-24-2010 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by sleepy jack
(Post 974732)
Well for one you're now putting words in his/her mouth. He/she is not saying all r&b/hip hop is crap, he/she is saying all the stuff on the radio is, which is a pretty fair statement to make because mainstream music of any kind (be it rock or rap) is garbage, with very few exceptions.
There's also a connotative meaning that I think you're ignoring just to be argumentative, when people refer to radio hip hop/r&b they're typically referring specifically to crap like 50 cent and all that stuff that is commonly viewed as garbage by people on music message boards, even though artists like Outkast are mainstream they're typically exempt because again, there exceptions to the rule and not what one thinks of when they think of mainstream hip hop/r&b.
You say I'm putting words in his mouth, yet you make his argument for him, not knowing what he meant by it, just assume it. He could be talking about anyone, and made a pretty broad statement by saying that other crap like Kanye sounds the same, that could be referring to anyone, not just stuff that gets radio play. I'm just saying it was stupid statement to make in a music forum, where there is guaranteed to be some Hip Hop/R&B fans, especially acting surprised.
"There are Kanye West fans on a music forum in 2010? I'm shocked"
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Song Review
Pretty heavy ****! It takes a while to get into, but it's not of the best quality. (not sure if it's intentional) I will be looking for more of their work. 8/10
sleepy jack
12-24-2010 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by xEMGx
(Post 974738)
You say I'm putting words in his mouth, yet you make his argument for him, not knowing what he meant by it, just assume it. He could be talking about anyone, and made a pretty broad statement by saying that other crap like Kanye sounds the same, that could be referring to anyone, not just stuff that gets radio play. I'm just saying it was stupid statement to make in a music forum, where there is guaranteed to be some Hip Hop/R&B fans, especially acting surprised.
"There are Kanye West fans on a music forum in 2010? I'm shocked"
How am I putting words in his mouth? He clearly stated here:
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Originally Posted by s_k
(Post 974683)
I mean I just don't hear the difference between Kanye and the other R&B/Hip-hop 'crap' that's on the radio nowadays.
I don't like the style anyway, I'm just trying to understand what's different about Kanye, as I don't hear it. Hoped someone could explain it to me. And that happened. So please move on ;).
Seems to me that him saying "on the radio" means it is just the stuff that gets radio play, but maybe I'm putting words in his mouth in assuming that by radio they meant what is commonly thought of as a radio. I don't know man I thought the argument and statements they were making were easy to understand. I guess I don't have your linguistic and psychological knowledge of shit that's posted on the internet though so I'm probably full of shit.
Insane Guest
12-24-2010 10:58 PM
He could just be assuming that all "crap" that is on the radio is Hip Hop/R&B, not even knowing what actually plays on it, just for making a statement against the music.
But whatever, **** it, it just always entertains me to argue with s_k.
sleepy jack
12-24-2010 11:00 PM
I think he's pretty explicitly referring to the hip hop/r&b which is played on the radio, not assuming that everything played on the radio is hip hop/r&b. You got all pissed at me for 'assuming' and now you're doing the same thing. I don't know why it would surprise you that someone's heard 50 Cent before though.
Insane Guest
12-24-2010 11:06 PM
It doesn't surprise me, and I know that I am making assumptions, but for all I know, he could be talking about Dutch Radio, I just wanted to get his thoughts.
...And none of those artists have fans that respect them and/or have threads on this site?
Ok, well I made an assumption and dragged this a lot more than it needed it to be, I'll shut up now. I see what you mean though, but still think his statement was with with some ignorance behind it.
