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Old 12-03-2010, 01:17 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Billy Corgan anyone? No? ok..
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Old 12-03-2010, 01:45 AM   #62 (permalink)
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Old 12-03-2010, 05:09 AM   #63 (permalink)
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@clutknuckle and TheBig3KilledMyRainDog: that's very naive
I think you meant "objective", not "subjective"

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@TheBig3KilledMyRainDog: Of all time means in all genres, so if you put a guitarist in #11 for that list then you can't put that same guitarist in a lower spot than that for a list of only one genre. Get it? Because the guitarists ahead of him in the single genre list would deserve the #11 spot on the "Of all time" list more. The lists are online just google that ****. Since they're online they are available to more people.
So what you're saying is, the top 10 of ten genres means the top 100?

Alright so that means the list looks like this.

Top 10 Rock guitarists
Top 10 Folk Guitarists
Top 10 Metal Guitarists
Top 10 Funk Guitarists
Top 10 Classical Guitarists
Top 10 Blues Guitarists
Top 10 Reggae Guitarists
Top 10 Pop Guitarists
Top 10 Soul Guitarists
Top 10 Jazz Guitarists

Meaning if you're the 11th best guitarist in any one genre, you're not on the list. And if we're going to be such parameter-nazi's about this that means the Top 10 Techno guitarists take precedent over the 11th best in other genres...

Do you see why that doesn't work? When you play to a genre, you're good at what that genre does. If you play to play, and your band happens to be genre specific, then you may not be the best [style] guitarist but you can still be pretty great.

With regard to Kurt, Metal's changed quite a bit since 1983. Is that his fault? Is he any less of a guitar player because of it? No. But is he, in 2010, the best guitar player in Metal? Probably not.
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Old 12-03-2010, 03:00 PM   #64 (permalink)
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I think you meant "objective", not "subjective"



So what you're saying is, the top 10 of ten genres means the top 100?

Alright so that means the list looks like this.

Top 10 Rock guitarists
Top 10 Folk Guitarists
Top 10 Metal Guitarists
Top 10 Funk Guitarists
Top 10 Classical Guitarists
Top 10 Blues Guitarists
Top 10 Reggae Guitarists
Top 10 Pop Guitarists
Top 10 Soul Guitarists
Top 10 Jazz Guitarists

Meaning if you're the 11th best guitarist in any one genre, you're not on the list. And if we're going to be such parameter-nazi's about this that means the Top 10 Techno guitarists take precedent over the 11th best in other genres...

Do you see why that doesn't work? When you play to a genre, you're good at what that genre does. If you play to play, and your band happens to be genre specific, then you may not be the best [style] guitarist but you can still be pretty great.

With regard to Kurt, Metal's changed quite a bit since 1983. Is that his fault? Is he any less of a guitar player because of it? No. But is he, in 2010, the best guitar player in Metal? Probably not.
It's music, I mean subjective. Alright you missed what I meant completely. I'm not going to try to explain it again. Kurt? Listen my opinion is from a guitarist's perspective. I used to think Kirk was the greatest when I first got into metal. But now as I've come to understand the guitar and technique involved in playing different genres, I now see how I didn't really know what constituted a great guitarist. So you and I can argue about what spot he deserves but it's all meaningless because to quote Robert Anton Wilson, "We all generate our own reality tunnel."
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Old 12-03-2010, 03:28 PM   #65 (permalink)
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@clutknuckle and TheBig3KilledMyRainDog: that's very naive
Look up the definition of the word 'subjective'. Then re-read your comment. If you're able to analyze and assess the situation, you will understand why it has absolutely no bearing. I'm not going to bother holding your hand through that. Naivety has absolutely nothing to do with this, but it's cool that you resort to a petty, kindergarten-level insult when you have no real argument.
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Old 12-03-2010, 03:53 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Come on now... let's be nice. This thread wasn't meant to generate animosity.
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Old 12-03-2010, 07:09 PM   #67 (permalink)
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It's music, I mean subjective. Alright you missed what I meant completely. I'm not going to try to explain it again. Kurt? Listen my opinion is from a guitarist's perspective. I used to think Kirk was the greatest when I first got into metal. But now as I've come to understand the guitar and technique involved in playing different genres, I now see how I didn't really know what constituted a great guitarist. So you and I can argue about what spot he deserves but it's all meaningless because to quote Robert Anton Wilson, "We all generate our own reality tunnel."
So you're saying that what Kirk does doesn't constitute a great guitarist?

At some point, if this debate continues, we're going to have to whittle it down to "so who do you think is deserving?" We can cut to that chase now if you'd like.
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