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Old 03-19-2011, 07:41 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Here's a pretty good deconstruction of the song, for those who don't think it's all that bad:



"Hey, thanks, Black Eyed Peas, for taking a phrase we Jews like to use for sacred events like weddings or bar mitzvahs and rhyming it with the desire to see a dancing ***** get naked."
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If a chicken was smart enough to be able to speak English and run in a geometric pattern, then I think it should be smart enough to dial 911 (999) before getting the axe, and scream to the operator, "Something must be done! Something must be done!"

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Old 03-19-2011, 08:36 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Why do you hate anything? Sometimes you just don't like some things. I find all those songs annoying though. When songs get overplayed that's certainly a big factor too.

The Whip Your Hair song just enrages me for some reason. I feel like punching a baby every time it comes on.
I just asked because that's what the OP asks of people. To post reasons for why they hate songs but I guess you didn't read the first post.



/yawn

the video was sort of funny but BEP can do no wrong in my eyes. They "lost" their hip hop credibility two albums earlier so I have no idea why he's still bringing that up. They decided to change over to hip-pop when they added Fergie to the group.
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Old 03-20-2011, 04:58 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I just asked because that's what the OP asks of people. To post reasons for why they hate songs but I guess you didn't read the first post.
Yes, dj, I was hoping people could put into words what they don't like about a song. I think that sometimes the reasons for distaste are hard to pinpoint because they may have deeper, amorphous emotional causes.

For example, Dayvan posted a Nickleback cover of a song, and when I heard it and the phlegmy, growly way the man sings in a tepid instrumental background, I didn't like his cover either. His singing feels over-emotional to me and I don't like phlegm. But then I think, why do I feel this way? Maybe because for myself I sometimes value being able to control my emotions and show little weakness and so I look down on it when someone else violates the way I feel I 'have' to act. Maybe when I feel I have to be strongest, a 'weak' song irritates me because someone else isn't constrained like I constrain myself. Maybe I'm angry at myself for constraining *my* emotional repertoire.

As for phlegm, I never liked getting spit on, so hearing it in a singer's voice bugs me. Can't he just swallow it down? Can't he just control his own body? Maybe it bugs me that he isn't bothered by what would bother me in myself.

Meanwhile, Whitney Houston's lovey-dovey song may irritate me because her profession of love reminds me of times I felt loving and the relationships tanked, and so I feel the song encourages self-delusion by singing so glowingly of the strength and power of love that 'lasts forever.' But maybe what really bothers me is that when I first heard the song I *did* want an overwhelming, sure love like it describes, and I felt sad that mine didn't work out, and so I felt bitter if other people's love relationships did. Maybe the song makes me envious.

I don't expect people to go THAT deep but a simple description of why they think they don't like a song would suffice. People's negative reactions to songs so far do make me wonder, though, why they are often so violent...because it is 'just music'...and yet obviously music rouses deeper emotions in us than those I'd expect in a simple critique of aesthetics. Music can get us to the state where we feel like beating something (or someone) up because of a song!! It's interesting to me that our responses to music can be so strong.

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/yawn

the video was sort of funny but BEP can do no wrong in my eyes. They "lost" their hip hop credibility two albums earlier so I have no idea why he's still bringing that up. They decided to change over to hip-pop when they added Fergie to the group.
You make a valid point about why the critic's complaint is like chopping up an already chopped salad (as opposed to beating a dead horse). I actually don't mind the song that much...it is what it is, a happy dance song...but hip-pop isn't my thing (usually), for some of the reasons that critic points out.

I think they did wrong when they said over and over "let's do it, let's do it, let's do it do it do it..." I agree with some of what the critic mocks: floating people in the air in a video doesn't make up for unoriginality and repetitiveness in a song.

Why do the unoriginal and repetitive lyrics bother me? Maybe because I realize the Black Eyed Peas are famous and presumably wealthy for singing songs with lyrics so simple that I could have written them, if I'd wanted to, in just a few minutes. So I feel an indignant '*I*could have done that!' feeling...yet the point is I *didn't* and they *did*...and so I have to face my own fears about whether I fail to take the initiative to use my abilities as thoroughly as I could.

Whatever else they may lack aesthetically, the BEPs have confidence in themselves and they bravely state their Nike triteness of "let's do it, let's do it, let's do it do it do it." I can't help but admire their confidence, energy, and drive as musicians even as I dislike their songs.
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If a chicken was smart enough to be able to speak English and run in a geometric pattern, then I think it should be smart enough to dial 911 (999) before getting the axe, and scream to the operator, "Something must be done! Something must be done!"

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Yes, dj, I was hoping people could put into words what they don't like about a song. I think that sometimes the reasons for distaste are hard to pinpoint because they may have deeper, amorphous emotional causes.
Yeah, I also think that sometimes people don't have a real reason to hate it, it is one of feelings like "I just do". At times it is hard to pinpoint the reason like you said. I think a main reason may also be over exposure. That's why I try to avoid the top 40 stations as much as possible so they don't ruin songs that I like.


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I don't expect people to go THAT deep but a simple description of why they think they don't like a song would suffice. People's negative reactions to songs so far do make me wonder, though, why they are often so violent...because it is 'just music'...and yet obviously music rouses deeper emotions in us than those I'd expect in a simple critique of aesthetics. Music can get us to the state where we feel like beating something (or someone) up because of a song!! It's interesting to me that our responses to music can be so strong.
yeah, I find that interesting as well

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You make a valid point about why the critic's complaint is like chopping up an already chopped salad (as opposed to beating a dead horse). I actually don't mind the song that much...it is what it is, a happy dance song...but hip-pop isn't my thing (usually), for some of the reasons that critic points out.

I think they did wrong when they said over and over "let's do it, let's do it, let's do it do it do it..." I agree with some of what the critic mocks: floating people in the air in a video doesn't make up for unoriginality and repetitiveness in a song.

Why do the unoriginal and repetitive lyrics bother me? Maybe because I realize the Black Eyed Peas are famous and presumably wealthy for singing songs with lyrics so simple that I could have written them, if I'd wanted to, in just a few minutes. So I feel an indignant '*I*could have done that!' feeling...yet the point is I *didn't* and they *did*...and so I have to face my own fears about whether I fail to take the initiative to use my abilities as thoroughly as I could.

Whatever else they may lack aesthetically, the BEPs have confidence in themselves and they bravely state their Nike triteness of "let's do it, let's do it, let's do it do it do it." I can't help but admire their confidence, energy, and drive as musicians even as I dislike their songs.
I think one of the main reasons I like BEP is because I know how good they were in the past on the first two albums. I also like their high energy performances. They did drop the ball during the super bowl but it was still a pretty sight to see with all the extras in lights and things of that nature.

That is one thing that I never really got to hung up on is lyrics. When I hear nice lyrics that's all well and dandy but if I had bad lyrics...I don't really care depending on the other elements of the song.
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Yeah, I also think that sometimes people don't have a real reason to hate it, it is one of feelings like "I just do". At times it is hard to pinpoint the reason like you said. I think a main reason may also be over exposure. That's why I try to avoid the top 40 stations as much as possible so they don't ruin songs that I like.

yeah, I find that interesting as well
You're probably right - maybe sometimes the reasons for disliking a song cannot be easily put into words.

People's reactions to songs may sometimes be similar to how people react to the smell of Liederkranz cheese Liederkranz cheese - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. I smelled Liederkranz cheese yesterday for the first time. Phewww! It stinks like manure! Yet some people actually like it. Hard to fathom, but true. And they like to eat it with raw onions and beer, neither of which I like either. Why don't I like Liederkranz cheese, onions, and beer? Because I don't like how they taste. Why? Because I don't like how they taste!

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I think one of the main reasons I like BEP is because I know how good they were in the past on the first two albums. I also like their high energy performances. They did drop the ball during the super bowl but it was still a pretty sight to see with all the extras in lights and things of that nature.

That is one thing that I never really got to hung up on is lyrics. When I hear nice lyrics that's all well and dandy but if I had bad lyrics...I don't really care depending on the other elements of the song.
Well, as you know I'm a lyrics person, except I do like the "Da da da" song by Trio (below). And I haven't heard the Black Eyed Peas' older songs and few of their newer ones, so I wasn't really being accurate when I said I don't like their music. I should say that I don't like their songs that I've *heard*. They are my Liederkranz cheese! But if you have some of their older songs you'd recommend, I'd listen and see if the manure smell fades.

A song I LIKE:

Trio - "Da da da"
-- where simple lyrics work for me!

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You're probably right - maybe sometimes the reasons for disliking a song cannot be easily put into words.

People's reactions to songs may sometimes be similar to how people react to the smell of Liederkranz cheese Liederkranz cheese - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. I smelled Liederkranz cheese yesterday for the first time. Phewww! It stinks like manure! Yet some people actually like it. Hard to fathom, but true. And they like to eat it with raw onions and beer, neither of which I like either. Why don't I like Liederkranz cheese, onions, and beer? Because I don't like how they taste. Why? Because I don't like how they taste!
you should come try our Durian fruit... Westerners say the experience is like eating walnut in a toilet (a toilet where someone has just done their business and not yet flushed)
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You're probably right - maybe sometimes the reasons for disliking a song cannot be easily put into words.

People's reactions to songs may sometimes be similar to how people react to the smell of Liederkranz cheese Liederkranz cheese - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. I smelled Liederkranz cheese yesterday for the first time. Phewww! It stinks like manure! Yet some people actually like it. Hard to fathom, but true. And they like to eat it with raw onions and beer, neither of which I like either. Why don't I like Liederkranz cheese, onions, and beer? Because I don't like how they taste. Why? Because I don't like how they taste!
I'm curious to try this cheese now and see my reaction to it. I don't mind raw onions but beer tastes like piss water imo. I get no satisfaction from drinking beer only a stupid bloated stomach.

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Well, as you know I'm a lyrics person, except I do like the "Da da da" song by Trio (below). And I haven't heard the Black Eyed Peas' older songs and few of their newer ones, so I wasn't really being accurate when I said I don't like their music. I should say that I don't like their songs that I've *heard*. They are my Liederkranz cheese! But if you have some of their older songs you'd recommend, I'd listen and see if the manure smell fades.

A song I LIKE:

Trio - "Da da da"
-- where simple lyrics work for me!

haha that song reminds me of one from Spoon but I can't even find it right now to show you.


This is one of my favorite BEP tracks and it's on their second LP. If you listen to the lyrics they basically describe what they have turned into. The things they hate about artists is what they have become. It is like a self-fulfilling prophecy or something.



I wanted to add another one



I love this song, it gets me pumped up sometimes.
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you should come try our Durian fruit... Westerners say the experience is like eating walnut in a toilet (a toilet where someone has just done their business and not yet flushed)
If or when I am in Malaysia, Il Duce, I will try this 'Durian fruit' in your honor. If I can listen to a Black Eyed Peas song that I don't like, *surely* I could survive eating a harmless fruit, no matter how much fragrance o' toilet it has!

Dj, I'm listening to the song you posted above...full report below:

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This is one of my favorite BEP tracks and it's on their second LP. If you listen to the lyrics they basically describe what they have turned into. The things they hate about artists is what they have become. It is like a self-fulfilling prophecy or something.

Yes, that track isn't bad at all, the lyrics are interesting, and I like the video very much. It *is* ironic that the song is "Get Original" and now a main complaint about their music is that it isn't! I can almost hear humanity screaming at the Black Eyed Peas their very own words when they sing:

"If you ate pebbles, your **** wouldn't rock.
You one of them balloons made to go pop.
You need to stop now, get original!"

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I don't know, Scissorman...every time I've listened to this song since you posted it, I find myself starting to chuckle uncontrollably, especially when the man sings what sounds like "suicidoh, suicidoh."
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