Genres You Dislike/Conversion

FRED HALE SR. · 10-12-2011, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

I'll start out.

Hip Hop.

The problem: I find that the repetition of vocals and their focus on rhythm rather than melody doesn't hold my attention. Also, vulgarities in lyrics turn me off. I didn't even really care for My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. I thought it had moments, but that they couldn't be redeemed by what I considered negative qualities (f.ex. that piano based song where the guy at the end talks about ****ing for two or three minutes).

So far, I've found a few albums that I consider listenable, but wouldn't purchase for myself or listen to regularly.

Eternia & MoSS - At Last
Dalek - Absence
Buck 65 - 20 Odd Years
Beast - Beast
Why? - Alopecia

I like instrumental hip hop, and I love trip hop. The one album closest to hip hop in nature that I can say I love through and through is Gorillaz - Demon Days.

So, any hope for me?

Jazzmataz seems like its up this alley.

http://www.google.com/url?url=http:/...dWkvbg&cad=rja

Great jazz samples and instrumentals and the awesome lyrics of GURU.

SATCHMO · 10-12-2011, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR.

Jazzmataz seems like its up this alley.

http://www.google.com/url?url=http:/...dWkvbg&cad=rja

Great jazz samples and instrumentals and the awesome lyrics of GURU.

The beats were a bit innovate 20 years ago when the album was made, but Guru's vocal delivery is a bit rough and unlistenable IMO.

I'm going to recommend Madlib's Shades of Blue album. It's mostly instumental, yes, but still melodic hip hop and quite listenable.

Paedantic Basterd · 10-12-2011, 01:34 PM

Thanks guys. Will post in here when I've listened to them.

Electrophonic Tonic · 10-12-2011, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedestrian

I'll start out.

Hip Hop.

The problem: I find that the repetition of vocals and their focus on rhythm rather than melody doesn't hold my attention. Also, vulgarities in lyrics turn me off. I didn't even really care for My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. I thought it had moments, but that they couldn't be redeemed by what I considered negative qualities (f.ex. that piano based song where the guy at the end talks about ****ing for two or three minutes).

So far, I've found a few albums that I consider listenable, but wouldn't purchase for myself or listen to regularly.

Eternia & MoSS - At Last
Dalek - Absence
Buck 65 - 20 Odd Years
Beast - Beast
Why? - Alopecia

I like instrumental hip hop, and I love trip hop. The one album closest to hip hop in nature that I can say I love through and through is Gorillaz - Demon Days.

So, any hope for me?

I would check out Company Flow's 'Little Johnny From the Hospital'. It's a very diverse, instrumental hip-hop album that could fit your criteria.

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As for myself, I have a few different genres I really dislike. So, I might be back later when I decide the direction I want to go in.

Paedantic Basterd · 10-12-2011, 02:56 PM

Thanks, rec noted.

TockTockTock · 10-12-2011, 03:26 PM

Try Subtle's album, A New White (2004), Pedestrian.

Although, I won't deny that I suffer from the same problem that you do. I have yet to find a hip hop album that challenges me instrumentally, and there hasn't been any boundary-pushing material to come from the genre yet.

...or am I asking for too much?

(I like hip hop, by the way... I listen to it on a regular basis).

Sneer · 10-12-2011, 04:20 PM

Both Pedestrian and Jack Pat should check out Divine Styler - Spiral Walls Containing Autumns of Light. A very challenging, uncompromising hip hop album. The lyrics are intelligent and thoughtful, whilst the instrumentation is experimental in nature - it's been described as 'The Residents meets Funkadelic'.

Can't guarantee you'll like it, but it's one of the most intriguing hip hop albums I own.

RVCA · 10-12-2011, 05:02 PM

I've yet to find anything in Post Punk that isn't yawn inducing.

Have tried:
Joy Division
New Order
The Chameleons
The Cure
Television
Wire
some others

Admittedly, I dig "Marquee Moon", but it hardly seems like post punk to me

Mondo Bungle · 10-12-2011, 05:08 PM

Just thought I'd stop by, I don't like noise. Not noise rock/punk/pop, just noise. I don't know how you guys can listen to that. I like stuff that incorporates noise elements, lots of John Zorn, but stuff like Merzbow, ugh. I like my music to actually contain music.

I might be converted on to rap, though. I've heard some potential among groups/artists like The Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy, Beatnigs, and some Aesop Rock. Avant-garde/experimental rap seems up my alley.

Paedantic Basterd · 10-12-2011, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RVCA

I've yet to find anything in Post Punk that isn't yawn inducing.

Have tried:
Joy Division
New Order
The Chameleons
The Cure
Television
Wire
some others

Admittedly, I dig "Marquee Moon", but it hardly seems like post punk to me

Did you ever follow through on Echo & the Bunnymen?

10-12-2011, 04:20 PM	#17 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,430	Both Pedestrian and Jack Pat should check out Divine Styler - Spiral Walls Containing Autumns of Light. A very challenging, uncompromising hip hop album. The lyrics are intelligent and thoughtful, whilst the instrumentation is experimental in nature - it's been described as 'The Residents meets Funkadelic'. Can't guarantee you'll like it, but it's one of the most intriguing hip hop albums I own. __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show Last edited by Sneer; 10-12-2011 at 04:26 PM.

10-12-2011, 01:34 PM	#13 (permalink)
Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	Thanks guys. Will post in here when I've listened to them.

10-12-2011, 02:56 PM	#15 (permalink)
Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	Thanks, rec noted.

10-12-2011, 03:26 PM	#16 (permalink)
TockTockTock They/Them Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,914	Try Subtle's album, A New White (2004), Pedestrian. Although, I won't deny that I suffer from the same problem that you do. I have yet to find a hip hop album that challenges me instrumentally, and there hasn't been any boundary-pushing material to come from the genre yet. ...or am I asking for too much? (I like hip hop, by the way... I listen to it on a regular basis).

10-12-2011, 05:02 PM	#18 (permalink)
RVCA （￣ー￣） Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 3,270	I've yet to find anything in Post Punk that isn't yawn inducing. Have tried: Joy Division New Order The Chameleons The Cure Television Wire some others Admittedly, I dig "Marquee Moon", but it hardly seems like post punk to me