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Ravenheart 05-03-2012 12:21 PM

Holy generalizations, Batman.

Big Ears 05-03-2012 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1185391)
I think you'd find that a lot of hip hop does not fall into the categories you're describing. Before I make any recommendations though, what kinds of music do you like?

Heavy and progressive rock mainly. I also like seventies soul, such as The Temptations, Four Tops, Chi-lites, Gladys Knight, Fat Larry's Band and many others.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1185391)
Why would rap purists not like those? A lot of that stuff is the foundation of hip hop.

That's reassuring in a way.

Goofle 05-03-2012 12:29 PM

How many Rap artists do you know of?

Janszoon 05-03-2012 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Ears (Post 1185397)
Heavy and progressive rock.

What are some of you favorite bands on the heavy rock side of that equation?

Big Ears 05-03-2012 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1185401)
What are some of you favorite bands on the heavy rock side of that equation?

Budgie
Black Sabbath
Groundhogs
golden Earring
Robin Trower
Stray
Deep Purple
Glenn Hughes
Black Country Communion
Boston
Jorn Lande
Pat Travers
Thin Lizzy
UFO
Mountain
The Who
ZZ Top
The Quill
Graveyard
Ted Nugent
Nutz
Patto

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Originally Posted by Goofle11 (Post 1185400)
How many Rap artists do you know of?

Don't ask me to name them, but I'll try. Here goes:

Dizzy Rascal (He's British)
Fifty Cent?
Jay Z
Li'l Kim (I like the version of Lady Marmalade and the video even more!)
Kanye West

That's about it.

Janszoon 05-03-2012 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Ears (Post 1185404)
Budgie
Black Sabbath
Groundhogs
golden Earring
Robin Trower
Stray
Deep Purple
Glenn Hughes
Black Country Communion
Boston
Jorn Lande
Pat Travers
Thin Lizzy
UFO
Mountain
The Who
ZZ Top
The Quill
Graveyard
Ted Nugent
Nutz
Patto

Hmmm... so definitely on the 70s rock side of things. This is the really obvious suggestion, but have you checked out The Roots at all?


Goofle 05-03-2012 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Ears (Post 1185404)
Dizzy Rascal (He's British)
Fifty Cent?
Jay Z
Li'l Kim (I like the version of Lady Marmalade and the video even more!)
Kanye West

That's about it.

Come on mate. You can't expect to be taken seriously if that is what you base your opinions on.

Paedantic Basterd 05-03-2012 12:52 PM

I'm not yet a converted fan of hiphop, but even so, I'm aware that most of the generalizations you've made are false and based on bias towards mainstream acts.

Never use the mainstream as a basis for an opinion on a genre.

Big Ears 05-03-2012 01:10 PM

Okay, fair comments. I definitely liked The Roots track.

I have never heard of them before.

Janszoon 05-03-2012 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Ears (Post 1185415)
Okay, fair comments. I definitely liked The Roots track.

I have never heard of them before.

They're a good band and sort of the go-to group when people are looking to recommend hip-hop to people who think the entire genre is all about sampling. I think they're fairly approachable from the outside because they have a very noticeable traditional band configuration. It's true that that kind of configuration is rare in hip hop but that doesn't mean the people involved can't, or don't, write and play their own music. It's a genre that's full to the brim with keyboardists for one thing, but there are a lot of multi-instrumentalists out there as well. Take Andre 3000 from Outkast or Tendai 'Baba' Maraire from Shabazz Palaces for example—these are extremely talented multi-instrumentalists who do more writing and playing on their albums than most individual musicians of traditional rock bands. The thing is people involved in this type of music tend to downplay the amount of work that goes into it. It's ironic for a genre that's so often accused of being all about self-promotion, but hip hop musicians pretty consistently work very hard behind the scenes to conceal how much hard work and crafting goes into their compositions.


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