Music Banter

Music Banter (https://www.musicbanter.com/)
-   General Music (https://www.musicbanter.com/general-music/)
-   -   Genres You Dislike/Conversion (https://www.musicbanter.com/general-music/58917-genres-you-dislike-conversion.html)

eraser.time206 10-12-2011 02:09 AM

Genres You Dislike/Conversion
 
State a genre you dislike and someone else will post a song to convert you. I dislike Punk.

Ben Butler 10-12-2011 07:58 AM

I dislike country music.

Guybrush 10-12-2011 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eraser.time206 (Post 1110456)
State a genre you dislike and someone else will post a song to convert you. I dislike Punk.

Even the classics?



Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben Butler (Post 1110486)
I dislike country music.

Even this prime example of norwegian country music? :)



I dislike J-Pop!

lucifer_sam 10-12-2011 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eraser.time206 (Post 1110456)
State a genre you dislike and someone else will post a song to convert you. I dislike Punk.


Buzzcocks- Ever Fallen In Love - YouTube

If you don't like this song, you might not have a soul.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 10-12-2011 10:58 AM

I can't think of a single genre I hate entirely. Albeit, there are some(rap/hip hop, Electropop) I dislike large portions of.

Thom Yorke 10-12-2011 11:20 AM

http://www.musicbanter.com/general-m...ke-thread.html

Pretty much the same idea.

Paedantic Basterd 10-12-2011 11:22 AM

I think this could potentially be a great thread concept, if it were more than just a post-videos thread. I think we should list some examples of the kind of things we're looking for in a genre we dislike, and see if anyone can recommend bands or albums that we sound likely to enjoy.

Janszoon 10-12-2011 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 1110529)
I think this could potentially be a great thread concept, if it were more than just a post-videos thread. I think we should list some examples of the kind of things we're looking for in a genre we dislike, and see if anyone can recommend bands or albums that we sound likely to enjoy.

I agree. I was thinking it would help if people looking to be converted would give some sense of what music they do like so other have some idea of what direction to come from with their recommendations.

Paedantic Basterd 10-12-2011 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1110536)
I agree. I was thinking it would help if people looking to be converted would give some sense of what music they do like so other have some idea of what direction to come from with their recommendations.

I'll start out.

Hip Hop.

The problem: I find that the repetition of vocals and their focus on rhythm rather than melody doesn't hold my attention. Also, vulgarities in lyrics turn me off. I didn't even really care for My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. I thought it had moments, but that they couldn't be redeemed by what I considered negative qualities (f.ex. that piano based song where the guy at the end talks about ****ing for two or three minutes).

So far, I've found a few albums that I consider listenable, but wouldn't purchase for myself or listen to regularly.

  • Eternia & MoSS - At Last
  • Dalek - Absence
  • Buck 65 - 20 Odd Years
  • Beast - Beast
  • Why? - Alopecia
I like instrumental hip hop, and I love trip hop. The one album closest to hip hop in nature that I can say I love through and through is Gorillaz - Demon Days.

So, any hope for me?

SATCHMO 10-12-2011 12:27 PM

I was thinking this would be more like The Explain Why You Like This [genre] ('cause i don't understand) Thread.

FRED HALE SR. 10-12-2011 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 1110541)
I'll start out.

Hip Hop.

The problem: I find that the repetition of vocals and their focus on rhythm rather than melody doesn't hold my attention. Also, vulgarities in lyrics turn me off. I didn't even really care for My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. I thought it had moments, but that they couldn't be redeemed by what I considered negative qualities (f.ex. that piano based song where the guy at the end talks about ****ing for two or three minutes).

So far, I've found a few albums that I consider listenable, but wouldn't purchase for myself or listen to regularly.

  • Eternia & MoSS - At Last
  • Dalek - Absence
  • Buck 65 - 20 Odd Years
  • Beast - Beast
  • Why? - Alopecia
I like instrumental hip hop, and I love trip hop. The one album closest to hip hop in nature that I can say I love through and through is Gorillaz - Demon Days.

So, any hope for me?

Jazzmataz seems like its up this alley.

http://www.google.com/url?url=http:/...dWkvbg&cad=rja

Great jazz samples and instrumentals and the awesome lyrics of GURU.

SATCHMO 10-12-2011 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1110583)
Jazzmataz seems like its up this alley.

http://www.google.com/url?url=http:/...dWkvbg&cad=rja

Great jazz samples and instrumentals and the awesome lyrics of GURU.

The beats were a bit innovate 20 years ago when the album was made, but Guru's vocal delivery is a bit rough and unlistenable IMO.

I'm going to recommend Madlib's Shades of Blue album. It's mostly instumental, yes, but still melodic hip hop and quite listenable.

Paedantic Basterd 10-12-2011 01:34 PM

Thanks guys. Will post in here when I've listened to them.

Electrophonic Tonic 10-12-2011 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 1110541)
I'll start out.

Hip Hop.

The problem: I find that the repetition of vocals and their focus on rhythm rather than melody doesn't hold my attention. Also, vulgarities in lyrics turn me off. I didn't even really care for My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. I thought it had moments, but that they couldn't be redeemed by what I considered negative qualities (f.ex. that piano based song where the guy at the end talks about ****ing for two or three minutes).

So far, I've found a few albums that I consider listenable, but wouldn't purchase for myself or listen to regularly.

  • Eternia & MoSS - At Last
  • Dalek - Absence
  • Buck 65 - 20 Odd Years
  • Beast - Beast
  • Why? - Alopecia
I like instrumental hip hop, and I love trip hop. The one album closest to hip hop in nature that I can say I love through and through is Gorillaz - Demon Days.

So, any hope for me?

I would check out Company Flow's 'Little Johnny From the Hospital'. It's a very diverse, instrumental hip-hop album that could fit your criteria.

-----------------
As for myself, I have a few different genres I really dislike. So, I might be back later when I decide the direction I want to go in.

Paedantic Basterd 10-12-2011 02:56 PM

Thanks, rec noted.

TockTockTock 10-12-2011 03:26 PM

Try Subtle's album, A New White (2004), Pedestrian.

Although, I won't deny that I suffer from the same problem that you do. I have yet to find a hip hop album that challenges me instrumentally, and there hasn't been any boundary-pushing material to come from the genre yet.

...or am I asking for too much?

(I like hip hop, by the way... I listen to it on a regular basis).


Sneer 10-12-2011 04:20 PM

Both Pedestrian and Jack Pat should check out Divine Styler - Spiral Walls Containing Autumns of Light. A very challenging, uncompromising hip hop album. The lyrics are intelligent and thoughtful, whilst the instrumentation is experimental in nature - it's been described as 'The Residents meets Funkadelic'.

Can't guarantee you'll like it, but it's one of the most intriguing hip hop albums I own.


RVCA 10-12-2011 05:02 PM

I've yet to find anything in Post Punk that isn't yawn inducing.

Have tried:
Joy Division
New Order
The Chameleons
The Cure
Television
Wire
some others

Admittedly, I dig "Marquee Moon", but it hardly seems like post punk to me

Mondo Bungle 10-12-2011 05:08 PM

Just thought I'd stop by, I don't like noise. Not noise rock/punk/pop, just noise. I don't know how you guys can listen to that. I like stuff that incorporates noise elements, lots of John Zorn, but stuff like Merzbow, ugh. I like my music to actually contain music.

I might be converted on to rap, though. I've heard some potential among groups/artists like The Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy, Beatnigs, and some Aesop Rock. Avant-garde/experimental rap seems up my alley.

Paedantic Basterd 10-12-2011 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RVCA (Post 1110646)
I've yet to find anything in Post Punk that isn't yawn inducing.

Have tried:
Joy Division
New Order
The Chameleons
The Cure
Television
Wire
some others

Admittedly, I dig "Marquee Moon", but it hardly seems like post punk to me

Did you ever follow through on Echo & the Bunnymen?

TockTockTock 10-12-2011 06:25 PM

Thanks, Stu. I actually remember looking into that album at some point (I recognize its cover), but I never got around to actually listening to it. The whole 'Residents meets Funkadelic' comment convinced me to look into it.

Mondo Bungle: Try Kazumoto Endo's While You Were Out (1999). Also, if you want to develop a better mindset when approaching noise music, then I recommend you read up a bit on John Cage's philosophy on enjoying and listening to sounds.

RVCA: Marquee Moon IS post-punk (I have no clue in why people say it's proto-punk... it's from 1977). Post-punk doesn't have a particular sound... nor is it real/true genre. When you refer to an album as "post-punk," you are basically saying its taking a more progressive approach to punk rock.

Anyways... I strongly suggest you look into a band called The Cardiacs... Both Sing to God (1995) and A Little Man and a House and the Whole World Window (1988) are excellent albums to start with. :)

RVCA 10-12-2011 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 1110662)
Did you ever follow through on Echo & the Bunnymen?

Woops! Slipped my mind. Will get on that

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Pat (Post 1110666)

RVCA: Marquee Moon IS post-punk (I have no clue in why people say it's proto-punk... it's from 1977). Post-punk doesn't have a particular sound... nor is it real/true genre. When you refer to an album as "post-punk," you are basically saying its taking a more progressive approach to punk rock.

Anyways... I strongly suggest you look into a band called The Cardiacs... Both Sing to God (1995) and A Little Man and a House and the Whole World Window (1988) are excellent albums to start with. :)

Alright, will do

Paedantic Basterd 10-12-2011 07:35 PM

Re: Jazzmatazz: Good album! Consistent, variable, very good. Can't say I loved it, but I would seriously consider purchasing this (especially for 16 cents used). It's not a full on victory, but it's still a better result than I expected, so thank you for that. It's pretty good.

jackhammer 10-12-2011 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 1110541)
I'll start out.

Hip Hop.

The problem: I find that the repetition of vocals and their focus on rhythm rather than melody doesn't hold my attention. Also, vulgarities in lyrics turn me off. I didn't even really care for My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. I thought it had moments, but that they couldn't be redeemed by what I considered negative qualities (f.ex. that piano based song where the guy at the end talks about ****ing for two or three minutes).

So far, I've found a few albums that I consider listenable, but wouldn't purchase for myself or listen to regularly.

  • Eternia & MoSS - At Last
  • Dalek - Absence
  • Buck 65 - 20 Odd Years
  • Beast - Beast
  • Why? - Alopecia
I like instrumental hip hop, and I love trip hop. The one album closest to hip hop in nature that I can say I love through and through is Gorillaz - Demon Days.

So, any hope for me?

Try:
Atmosphere - When Life Gives You Lemons
Marxman - 33 Revolutions Per Minute
A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory
P.O.S - Never Better

Quote:

Originally Posted by RVCA (Post 1110646)
I've yet to find anything in Post Punk that isn't yawn inducing.

Have tried:
Joy Division
New Order
The Chameleons
The Cure
Television
Wire
some others

Admittedly, I dig "Marquee Moon", but it hardly seems like post punk to me

Wire are superb. What have you heard by them? They are still making music today and make some of the most interesting and intelligent music out there. A band that can straddle everything from Pop to Avant Garde is OK by me.

The Cranes
Current 93
Flux Of Pink Indians
Kill Me Tomorrow
Stereolab

are all worth checking out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Pat (Post 1110636)
Try Subtle's album, A New White (2004), Pedestrian.

Although, I won't deny that I suffer from the same problem that you do. I have yet to find a hip hop album that challenges me instrumentally, and there hasn't been any boundary-pushing material to come from the genre yet.

...or am I asking for too much?

(I like hip hop, by the way... I listen to it on a regular basis).


DJ Krush
Nujabes
Rise Robots Rise
Dessa
Techno Animal
Rubber Room

are worth checking out.

CanwllCorfe 10-12-2011 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 1110541)
I'll start out.

Hip Hop.

The problem: I find that the repetition of vocals and their focus on rhythm rather than melody doesn't hold my attention. Also, vulgarities in lyrics turn me off. I didn't even really care for My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. I thought it had moments, but that they couldn't be redeemed by what I considered negative qualities (f.ex. that piano based song where the guy at the end talks about ****ing for two or three minutes).

So far, I've found a few albums that I consider listenable, but wouldn't purchase for myself or listen to regularly.

  • Eternia & MoSS - At Last
  • Dalek - Absence
  • Buck 65 - 20 Odd Years
  • Beast - Beast
  • Why? - Alopecia
I like instrumental hip hop, and I love trip hop. The one album closest to hip hop in nature that I can say I love through and through is Gorillaz - Demon Days.

So, any hope for me?

That sounds somewhat similar to how I feel. BUT I have found that I really enjoy Das Racist, The Jealous Guys' Love Mixtape, as well as Madvillainy. I also like some stuff from Ghostpoet and Dizzee Rascal (older stuff). I'm not exactly sure what it is about them that I enjoy, so I can't say what I'm really on the lookout for. I do know I hate club oriented Hip-Hop. Immensely.

TockTockTock 10-12-2011 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 1110693)
Try:
A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory
P.O.S - Never Better

Seconded... P.O.S. is a great place to start for those wanting to make the transition from rock to hip hop.

Quote:

DJ Krush
Nujabes
Rise Robots Rise
Dessa
Techno Animal
Rubber Room
I've already listened to Rise Robots Rise and Techno Animal, but I'll definitely look into the others. Thank you.

Howard the Duck 10-12-2011 09:35 PM

i have to really look deep

i suppose whatever genre Fela Kuti's Confusion/Gentleman falls into

Afro-psyche?

give me something that doesn't sound like a total mess

Paedantic Basterd 10-12-2011 10:33 PM

All noted, Jackhammer. Thank you.

Mrd00d 10-13-2011 01:29 AM

For Pedestrian:

Have you tried the rap-rock group Flobots? I think that might be some positive hip-hop you can get into. Their most recent record, Survival Story, is the one I recommend starting with.

For less rock oriented hip-hop, I'd say try Blackalicious (Gift of Gab)

Mondo Bungle:

I see a bit of our interests intersect, but I'm into a bit more hip-hop and less metal. I think you got it right in thinking you'd like Aesop Rock. If you want any song recommendations in particular, I have/know most of his singles/features that don't come with his discography that are stellar. I recommend you the Unreleased singles 'album' as well as, of course, Labor Days.

and if you do dig Aesop, it's a definite must to go for El-P and probably Dalek...

eraser.time206 10-13-2011 02:14 AM

Hip-Hop melody
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 1110541)
I'll start out.

Hip Hop.

The problem: I find that the repetition of vocals and their focus on rhythm rather than melody doesn't hold my attention. Also, vulgarities in lyrics turn me off. I didn't even really care for My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. I thought it had moments, but that they couldn't be redeemed by what I considered negative qualities (f.ex. that piano based song where the guy at the end talks about ****ing for two or three minutes).

So far, I've found a few albums that I consider listenable, but wouldn't purchase for myself or listen to regularly.

  • Eternia & MoSS - At Last
  • Dalek - Absence
  • Buck 65 - 20 Odd Years
  • Beast - Beast
  • Why? - Alopecia
I like instrumental hip hop, and I love trip hop. The one album closest to hip hop in nature that I can say I love through and through is Gorillaz - Demon Days.

So, any hope for me?

Go on on YouTube and listen to "Tha Crossroads" by Bone-Thugs-N-Harmony. That is the perfect song for what you are looking for.

Paedantic Basterd 10-13-2011 10:36 AM

Thanks, D00d.

Quote:

Originally Posted by eraser.time206 (Post 1110825)
Go on on YouTube and listen to "Tha Crossroads" by Bone-Thugs-N-Harmony. That is the perfect song for what you are looking for.

Thanks, but I'm definitely looking for full albums as well. I'm not much of a single track person. Is their full length something I'd be interested in?

Thom Yorke 10-13-2011 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 1110541)
I'll start out.

Hip Hop.

The problem: I find that the repetition of vocals and their focus on rhythm rather than melody doesn't hold my attention. Also, vulgarities in lyrics turn me off. I didn't even really care for My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. I thought it had moments, but that they couldn't be redeemed by what I considered negative qualities (f.ex. that piano based song where the guy at the end talks about ****ing for two or three minutes).

So far, I've found a few albums that I consider listenable, but wouldn't purchase for myself or listen to regularly.

  • Eternia & MoSS - At Last
  • Dalek - Absence
  • Buck 65 - 20 Odd Years
  • Beast - Beast
  • Why? - Alopecia
I like instrumental hip hop, and I love trip hop. The one album closest to hip hop in nature that I can say I love through and through is Gorillaz - Demon Days.

So, any hope for me?

Black Up - Shabazz Palaces (experimental hip hop mainly focused on the instrumentals; can be somewhat repetitive lyrically)

Vocal Studies + Uprock Narratives - Prefuse 73 (very interesting instrumentals and features a few great emcees)

Appleseed EP - Aesop Rock (Sure you know him. This is one of his lesser known works, but one of his best; heavy use of strings)

A Sufi and a Killer - Gonjasufi (not hip hop, but has hip hop elements)

Take Me To Your Leader - King Geedorah (Another well known artist but one of his lesser known albums; get what you'd expect from a DOOM album)

Quicksand - Noah23 (abstract lyricism with very nice production)

Paedantic Basterd 10-13-2011 01:16 PM

Heard Black Up, didn't much care for it. It wasn't bad, per se, just didn't hold me. Noted the others though, thank you.

ilashes. 10-13-2011 01:28 PM

I struggle desperately with the whole dub step thing.
I'm trying to get into it for the sake of my boyfriend and the fact that hes warmed up to my music tastes but I can not for the love of God, find a dub step song that I like.

I've heard some Skrillex and some dub step remixes of hit AT40 songs and I basically just hear noise.

Phantom Limb 10-13-2011 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thom Yorke (Post 1110937)
Black Up - Shabazz Palaces (experimental hip hop mainly focused on the instrumentals; can be somewhat repetitive lyrically)

Vocal Studies + Uprock Narratives - Prefuse 73 (very interesting instrumentals and features a few great emcees)

Appleseed EP - Aesop Rock (Sure you know him. This is one of his lesser known works, but one of his best; heavy use of strings)

A Sufi and a Killer - Gonjasufi (not hip hop, but has hip hop elements)

Take Me To Your Leader - King Geedorah (Another well known artist but one of his lesser known albums; get what you'd expect from a DOOM album)

Quicksand - Noah23 (abstract lyricism with very nice production)

^These are some pretty good ones.

Madvillain- Madvillainy (highest rated rap album of all time on metacritic. just saying)

Blackstar- Blackstar (this album is a classic that everyone should listen to.)

Mos Def- The Ecstatic (Really interesting and varied production throughout the whole album. Top notch lyricism by mr. Mos, and his last album under that name:()

Any album by A Tribe Called Quest is fantastic, but you should get The Low End Theory and Midnight Marauders first.

Paedantic Basterd 10-13-2011 01:47 PM

Heard Midnight Marauders, been meaning to listen to Low End Theory.

Okay, thankls folks, this is loads, and I think I'll be busy for a long time with these. I'll be back to give my thoughts, and if I need more suggestions, I'll ask. :)

DoctorSoft 10-13-2011 01:54 PM

The only stuff I hate is Blues, Blues Rock, or anything tagged as Bluesy. That stuff bores me out of my skull.

CanwllCorfe 10-13-2011 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoctorSoft (Post 1110955)
The only stuff I hate is Blues, Blues Rock, or anything tagged as Bluesy. That stuff bores me out of my skull.

Yeah, the only Bluesy stuff I've ever found that I enjoy is old White Stripes. It's just not my thing.

Phantom Limb 10-13-2011 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoctorSoft (Post 1110955)
The only stuff I hate is Blues, Blues Rock, or anything tagged as Bluesy. That stuff bores me out of my skull.

How about the Dead Weather? It's bluesy but its still gets real loud and rocks the **** out.

Zer0 10-13-2011 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoctorSoft (Post 1110955)
The only stuff I hate is Blues, Blues Rock, or anything tagged as Bluesy. That stuff bores me out of my skull.

Let Muddy Waters get your blues mojo working. I don't listen to that much blues but this song is fantastic and always gets me going



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:55 AM.


© 2003-2024 Advameg, Inc.