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Argento 10-15-2011 12:00 AM

Argentina
 
Just to contribute my cents, here is the music of my country, which is in Latin America, and is made mostly in Spanish, and some English:

(I put the genre, band/artist, and song title

Rock
Redonditos de Ricota
Esa estrella era mi lujo


Reggae
Sumo
No tan distintos


Metal
Skiltron
Skiltron


Tango
Gardel
Por una cabeza

Mrd00d 10-15-2011 12:03 AM

Los Natas!







Excellent stoner rock band from Argentina...

Argento 10-15-2011 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrd00d (Post 1111313)
Los Natas!
...
Excellent stoner rock band from Argentina...

I'm surprised that somebody from California knows anything from Argentina. Do you belong to a Latin community?

This is not stoner, but Stone Rock:

Ratones Paranoicos (& Mick Taylor)
Isabel


Ratones Paranoicos
Carolina


Ratones Paranoicos
Vicio


Ratones Paranoicos
Rock del gato

Argento 10-15-2011 01:02 AM

Some extra Redonditos:

Rock yugular


Vencedores vencidos


Luzbelito


Etiqueta negra

Unknown Soldier 10-15-2011 05:38 AM

I know both Ratones Paranoicos and Soda Stereo :wave:

Mrd00d 10-15-2011 08:28 AM

Quote:

I'm surprised that somebody from California knows anything from Argentina. Do you belong to a Latin community?
No... but just call me lucky to have heard of them. They're very good. I heard of them because they are touring with California band Kyuss. Los Natas take influence from Kyuss and even have a few covers. They have a good amount of original material released, and I enjoyed it very much.

Argento 10-15-2011 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1111332)
I know both Ratones Paranoicos and Soda Stereo :wave:

Wow. Well, I bet you don't know this one:

Quote:

The reality, dances alone on a burial,
and sadly walk over better's [people] dream.
On a pocket has: love and joyfulness,
a god of fantasy, war and poetry...

La colina de la vida


Cuándo podrás amar


Será


Como se curan las heridas

Unknown Soldier 10-16-2011 03:07 AM

Pues no conozco la banda las pelotas que has puesto arriba, pero las canciones de las pelotas estan suaves y agradables para escuchar. ¿Dime hay bandas de metal en argentina? Porque soy un gran aficionado de este genero y me gusta mucho escuchar a metal de otros paises en vez del tipico metal de gran bretaña y estados unidos.

Janszoon 10-16-2011 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1111332)
I know both Ratones Paranoicos and Soda Stereo :wave:

Yeah, I know Soda Stereo too. I was a big fan of their last album, Soda Sueno.

And I'm surprised Los Fabulosos Cadillacs haven't mentioned in this thread yet. I love those guys.


Argento 10-16-2011 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1111514)
Pues no conozco la banda las pelotas que has puesto arriba, pero las canciones de las pelotas estan suaves y agradables para escuchar. ¿Dime hay bandas de metal en argentina? Porque soy un gran aficionado de este genero y me gusta mucho escuchar a metal de otros paises en vez del tipico metal de gran bretaña y estados unidos.

You ask for metal bands.

Well, there are thousands of Argentine metal bands, but they are mostly generic. There is little to rescue.

Hard rock are less numerous, but have better quality.

On metal, I already made mention of Skiltron, which does Celtic metal.

Skiltron
By sword and shield


A similar band is Triddana


The most known band is probably Rata Blanca:

La leyenda del hada y el mago


El reino olvidado


Mujer amante

Argento 10-16-2011 11:50 AM

Those are midway between metal and hard rock:

D-Mente & León Gieco
Pensar en nada


La Naranja
Corazón agotado


Bizarre metal
Asspera
El hijo de cuca

Argento 10-16-2011 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1111531)
Yeah, I know Soda Stereo too. I was a big fan of their last album, Soda Sueno.

And I'm surprised Los Fabulosos Cadillacs haven't mentioned in this thread yet. I love those guys.
...

Ok. Here is Soda Stereo, and after it the Cadillacs:

Soda Stereo:

Corazón delator


La ciudad de la furia


Lo que sangra


Nada personal

Argento 10-17-2011 08:13 AM

The Fabulosos Cadillacs made a fusion of many Latin genres with ska. They are one of the scarce Argentine bands known outside of Argentina.

Demasiada presión


Carnaval toda la vida


Yo no me sentaría en tu mesa


El satánico doctor Cadillac

Argento 10-17-2011 08:24 AM

This is one of the most popular songs from Redonditos de Ricota. I would not put it between the 20 best, but is one of the most liked, and covered.

Here are some covers:

An harmonic cover by who knows who is:


An instrumental cover by Sweet Little Band. It intends to be "for babies":


A ska attempt by Los Calzones Rotos:


A capella by Arbol:



And the original by Redonditos:

Zaqarbal 10-17-2011 09:01 PM

Another contributor, thanks God! Welcome, Argento. I wanted to show a lot of Argentine bands and singer-songwriters, but the lack of time is keeping me from posting at the Spanish-language music thread lately. I mentioned some big names, though. I especially like that great rock music from the 70's:




Pop and rock bands in general. Just two examples. Soda Stereo: Persiana americana ("Persian Blinds"). Babasónicos: Risa ("Laughter").


(Persiana americana:translation here)


Argento 10-18-2011 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaqarbal (Post 1111919)
Another contributor, thanks God! Welcome, Argento...

Thanks for the welcome!
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaqarbal (Post 1111919)
...

Sá. That was Pescado Rabioso. Spinetta band. In the 90's he morphed onto this:



In 2009 he released his album "Un mañana". I didn't, liked it. Too generic:



Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaqarbal (Post 1111919)

That one was Pappo's Band. In the 90's he did this, and then died on a motorcycle accident:



Another member, JAF, released "Supercharger" in 2009:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaqarbal (Post 1111919)
Pop and rock bands in general. Just two examples. Soda Stereo: Persiana americana ("Persian Blinds"). Babasónicos: Risa ("Laughter").

The leader of Soda Stereo had a brain stroke, and is on hospital bed. It's probably for ever.

Babasónicos is doing a cover of "Ella vendrá" (from Don Cornelio y La Zona), but I don't like it. I prefer this independent cover:


Argento 10-18-2011 04:54 PM

This is some Argentine music on foreign movies:

Gustavo Santaolalla
Wings (from the movie Brokeback Mountain)
(it starts at 1:50)


This song was composed by Gato Barbieri for "Last tango in Paris"
Here is interpreted by Michael Paulo:


Lalo Schifrin
Mission impossible


This song from Angel Villoldo is on many movies, including the "Adams family", and "Shall we Dance". Here is interpreted by Katica Illenyi.
El choclo

Argento 10-18-2011 06:36 PM

This is the closest thing to rap/hip hop I can stand. But I'm really not onto rap.

Auténticos decadentes
Tribus urbanas


Mancha de Rolando
Cabrón


Charly García
Rap de las hormigas


The government tried to censor this song. It called the president by his name, and accused him of being a drug trafficker. The band -Manos de Filippi- was sued by the president. He could be successful, but this other band, Bersuit Vergarabat took the song, and made it famous. This band was too important and popular to be pursued.

Bersuit Vergarabat
Sr. Cobranza (Manos de Filippi)

Argento 10-18-2011 11:38 PM

Let's go back to reggae:

Suéter
El anda diciendo


Los Pericos
El ritual de la banana


Man Ray
En el caribe sur


La Zimbabwe
Loco de atar

Argento 10-19-2011 10:29 AM

Skay Beilinson was guitarrist of Redonditos de Ricota.

Oda a la sin nombre


Lluvia sobre Bagdad


Entre el cielo y la tierra


Con los ojos cerrados

Argento 10-19-2011 07:57 PM

Los Piojos
Verano del 92


El farolito


Tan sólo


Como Alí

Argento 10-20-2011 10:25 AM

Mancha de Rolando
Santa María


Mancha de Rolando
Arde la ciudad


Caballeros de la quema
Avanti morocha


Oxidado

Argento 10-20-2011 04:16 PM

She's weird. I don't think is safe to be around.

Juana Molina
Un día


you can see how she does it
here


(^sorry, I can't link to YouTube without the video automatically inserted. I tried to make it just a link)

I know when to stop, so let's switch to something not looking weird:

Hilda Lisarazu
Sola en los bares


Todo cambia


Olvidate de mí

Argento 10-21-2011 06:30 AM

Poncho
Please me


Maxi Trusso & Mercurio
No Matter


Bittrox
Made of gold


Well, it can be debated if Kevin Johansen belongs to Argentine music, since he's born in Alaska, where he lived until 12 years old.

Kevin Johansen
Down with my baby

Argento 10-22-2011 02:24 AM

I'm worried about this

Quote:

Please wait a reasonable amount of time before bumping threads. At least 24 hours.
here

Music Banter - Announcements in Forum : Country, Folk & World Music

So, I would cut this to one post a day.

Mama Perfecta
Liberate y bailá


Los Pericos
Waiting for your love


Reggae Rockers
Tell Me


Sumo
Reggae de paz y amor

Argento 10-22-2011 01:03 PM

Redonditos de Ricota

Vamos las bandas


Un poco de amor francés


Mi perro dinamita


Mariposa pontiac

Argento 10-23-2011 09:39 AM

Charly García

Fanky


Rezo por vos


Buscando un símbolo de paz


No voy en tren

Windy 11-02-2011 09:36 PM

I like the Por una cabeza from the beginning though I never heared about it before.

Argento 11-04-2011 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Windy (Post 1115670)
I like the Por una cabeza from the beginning though I never heared about it before.

You probably heard it if you watched movies like True Lies, Schindler's List, or Scent of a Woman.



The genre is tango. Maybe the best composer was Piazzolla.

Piazzolla's Adios Nonino -Goodbye grandpa- is a song made after his grandparent death. It tries to convey the mix of feelings caused by loss. Sometimes is chaotic, sometimes is nostalgic and bittersweet.



This another has a style shared with Mission Impossible theme:

Fuga y misterio


The next ones are more mundane (and modern):

Bajofondo
Pa' bailar


Bersuit Vergarabat
Perro amor explota

Lisnaholic 11-05-2011 09:45 PM

Maybe you can help me with the name of a band, Argento :-
They have a girl singer and some unusual songs.Their name is something like "Architeritops" , but I can`t spell it well enough to find them on Google or anywhere.

I figure if anyone knows them you should : if they`re not actually Argentinian, I`m pretty sure they`re from South America.

Argento 11-06-2011 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1116502)
Maybe you can help me with the name of a band, Argento :-
They have a girl singer and some unusual songs.Their name is something like "Architeritops" , but I can`t spell it well enough to find them on Google or anywhere.

I figure if anyone knows them you should : if they`re not actually Argentinian, I`m pretty sure they`re from South America.

I have no clue about English language phonetics, but I guess that you mean the spanish word "arquitectos" -architects-

I know no band with that name.

Lisnaholic 11-07-2011 07:17 AM

Thanks, Argento ! I saw them on tv here in Mexico, so I thought they`d be well known. Their name looked more like an invented dinosaur than a real Spanish word, which is why I can`t find it again ! Anyway, I`ll let you know if I track them down them.

Argento 11-07-2011 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1117024)
Thanks, Argento ! I saw them on tv here in Mexico, so I thought they`d be well known. Their name looked more like an invented dinosaur than a real Spanish word, which is why I can`t find it again ! Anyway, I`ll let you know if I track them down them.

I'm wonder if you are Mexican, or a foreign visitor in Mexico?

You should not expect Mexico and Argentina hearing the same music, or even having the same tastes. The distance between Mexico and Argentina is the same as Germany to China, or Italy to South Africa.

Most Mexicans never hear more than one or two Argentine bands on his life, and Argentines also live on his own, parallel musical world. 99% of the music on this thread never was aired on Mexican radio or TV.

For example, the most prestigious band in Argentina is Redonditos de Ricota. Is impossible to start speaking about Argentine rock without this band. You can bet, 99,999999% of Mexicans never heard a word about it:

Todo un palo


Nadie es perfecto


Un rock para el negro Atila


Un ángel para tu soledad

Lisnaholic 11-07-2011 09:14 AM

^ Yes, I knew Mexico and Argentina were pretty far apart, but didn`t quite realize just how far !
Originally from London, I`ve spent the last 20 years in Mexico, but that doesn`t mean that I know much about modern Latin American bands. Of all the guys you`ve posted on this thread, about six have turned up in the Mexican media, especially Astor Piazzolla, Soda Stereo and Charly García.
I haven`t listened to all your posts yet, but I though this woman was fabulous, and both clips are interesting to watch. Thanks for posting them :-

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argento (Post 1112615)
She's weird. I don't think is safe to be around.

Juana Molina
Un día


you can see how she does it
here

P.S. You`re right : I`ve never heard anyone here mention Redonditos de Ricota !

Argento 11-08-2011 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1117047)
^ Yes, I knew Mexico and Argentina were pretty far apart, but didn`t quite realize just how far !
Originally from London, I`ve spent the last 20 years in Mexico, but that doesn`t mean that I know much about modern Latin American bands. Of all the guys you`ve posted on this thread, about six have turned up in the Mexican media, especially Astor Piazzolla, Soda Stereo and Charly García
...

I'm not surprised about Piazzolla. He is interpreted by philharmonics all around the world. Soda Stereo signed a contract with Sony, and played all around Latin America. But didn't expected Charly García. That's a surprise.

Signed bands are deeply looked down on Argentina. Even despised. So bands tend to avoid contracts with big labels. As a result, this thread is mostly made of self produced bands.
That's good, because they are free to do whatever they want. It also means that bands don't cross borders, don't do international tours, and stay outside from MTV and Grammy awards.
It's bad for their pockets. They have a hard life. But invariably, if they sign a contract, they end ruined in oblivion.

Companies think that they "know" what consumers want. But it seems like they never worry about what consumers really want. They pretend to decide what we "should" want, and we don't want that.



Your post made me connect dots this way.

La Portuaria (no more an independent band), was on his beginnings, a band influenced by Juana Molina.
Although it may not be obvious, on this song she left his footprints:

Selva


Nada es igual


Ruta


The dots connect with Mexico because this band signed a contract with big label, those that impose what bands should do, so they recorded this song with David Byrne (from Talking Heads). It speaks about Mexicans crossing the border to United States:

Hoy no le temo a la muerte


Not bad song, but, just a ripoff from an older one named "
Llévame a lo hondo". That's the kind of stuff that make us hate big labels.

Lisnaholic 11-08-2011 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argento (Post 1117237)
Signed bands are deeply looked down on Argentina. Even despised. So bands tend to avoid contracts with big labels. As a result, this thread is mostly made of self produced bands.
That's good, because they are free to do whatever they want. It also means that bands don't cross borders, don't do international tours, and stay outside from MTV and Grammy awards.
It's bad for their pockets. They have a hard life. But invariably, if they sign a contract, they end ruined in oblivion.

^ That`s very interesting, because it`s not generally the same in the USA and Europe, as far as I know. Maybe the big labels there have learned to be more flexible and tolerant. I guess some more radical musicians/audience feel that big-label signing is a sell-out, but I think that kind of success is usually respected.
I hope to come back to this thread later to check out your latest posts.
Any more Juana Molina ?

Zaqarbal 11-09-2011 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1117024)
I saw them on tv here in Mexico, so I thought they`d be well known. Their name looked more like an invented dinosaur than a real Spanish word, which is why I can`t find it again ! Anyway, I`ll let you know if I track them down them.

Perhaps it's a wordplay between archaeopteryx and arquitectos. I've never heard of that band, though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argento (Post 1117033)
You should not expect Mexico and Argentina hearing the same music, or even having the same tastes. The distance between Mexico and Argentina is the same as Germany to China, or Italy to South Africa.

Most Mexicans never hear more than one or two Argentine bands on his life, and Argentines also live on his own, parallel musical world. 99% of the music on this thread never was aired on Mexican radio or TV.

For example, the most prestigious band in Argentina is Redonditos de Ricota. Is impossible to start speaking about Argentine rock without this band. You can bet, 99,999999% of Mexicans never heard a word about it.

However, it seems that in Mexico they use to listen to many bands and singers from Spain. Those from the 80's were especially successful.

I think there is also a kind of "musical connection" between Argentina and Spain. In fact, to many critics, the 80's Spanish-language pop and rock boom and its internationalization (let's say "at a Pan-Hispanic level") began (and then continued) with a fusion of some Argentine and Spanish talents. They say there are two Argentine-Spanish bands essential for the Spanish-language rock of all time: Tequila and Los Rodríguez (and I agree!). Yes, I know: I should have translated more of their songs here at Music Banter, but... you know.... lack of time.... :(

Imagine for a moment: Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Jerry Lee Lewis, Elvis Presley and Buddy Holly were born in Buenos Aires and Madrid and they play together. In other words, ladies and gentlemen, Tequila is your top-notch rock n' roll en español:



Matrícula de Honor ("An A Grade", 1979)

♫ "9:00 de la mañana, ................................ 9:00 in the morning,
ya suena la campana, ................................ the bell rings,
a clase tenemos que entrar. ................................ we gotta enter the classroom.
No importa si nos gusta ................................ No matter if we like it
o acaso nos disgusta, ................................ or if we dislike it,
nadie te lo va a preguntar. ................................ nobody is gonna ask you about it.
Marchando para adentro, ................................ Going in,
no puedo soportar ................................ I can't stand
pensar que un día entero ................................ thinking that I have to sit
me tengo que tragar. ................................ through the whole day.

Los profes van pidiendo ................................ Teachers demand
un buen comportamiento ................................ a good behaviour
hablando y hablando sin parar. ................................ while talking and talking all the time.
Son viejos y aburridos, ................................ They're old and boring,
¡qué cruz que tengo que aguantar! ................................ what a cross to bear!
¡Bah! ................................ Boo!
Me entra por una oreja, ................................ It goes in one ear,
por la otra se me va. ................................ and right out the other.
Un día en el colegio... ................................ A day at the school...
...¡es un muermo total! ................................ ...is a crashing bore!

Y yo no sé por qué. ................................ And I don't know why.
Yo no sé por qué. ................................ I don't know why.
Yo no sé por qué. ................................ I don't know why.

Historia, Geografía, Latín y Biología, ................................ History, Geography, Latin and Biology,
¿a quién le pueden interesar? ................................ who would be interested in that?
Los nombres se me olvidan, ................................ I forget names,
los números me lían, ................................ numbers confuse me,
a mí esto no me va. ................................ this doesn't work for me.
No consigo entender ................................ I can't work out
si esto es un deber, ................................ if this is a duty,
si vengo al colegio más, ................................ if the more I go to school,
más, más voy a saber. ................................ the more I will know.

Las horas no terminan, ................................ Hours are endless,
me aburro cantidad, ................................ I'm bored stiff,
si hubiera alguna forma ................................ if only I could
de poderme largar... ................................ leave somehow...;
salir de aquí, ................................ to get out of here,
no volver más. ................................ to not come back again.
Matrícula de Honor nunca voy a sacar. ................................ I will never get an 'A' grade.
Un día en el colegio... ................................ A day at the school...
...¡es un muermo total! ................................ ...is a crashing bore!

Y yo no sé por qué. ................................ And I don't know why.
Yo no sé por qué. ................................ I don't know why.
Si tú sabes por qué, ................................ If you know why,
¡ay, dímelo, dímelo! ................................ oh, tell me, tell me!

Yo salgo del colegio, ................................ I'm gonna get out of the school,
ya no aguanto más. ................................ I can't take it no longer.
Me voy por el pasillo ................................ I go out by the corridor
y por la puerta de atrás; ................................ and the back door;
pasa un profesor, ................................ I bump into a teacher,
me pregunta '¿dónde vas?', ................................ he asks me 'where do you go?',
le digo '¡vete de mi vista!', ................................ I say to him 'get out of my sight!',
'¡vete de acá!'. ................................ 'get out of here!'". ♫

Argento 11-13-2011 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1117279)
^ That`s very interesting, because it`s not generally the same in the USA and Europe, as far as I know. Maybe the big labels there have learned to be more flexible and tolerant. I guess some more radical musicians/audience feel that big-label signing is a sell-out, but I think that kind of success is usually respected.
I hope to come back to this thread later to check out your latest posts.
Any more Juana Molina ?

I'm not sure on how to post more of Juana Molina.

She's a comedian. The kind of people that puts light over the little things that we all know, but we never are conscious of knowing until she points at it.

The problem is that that kind of stuff cannot be appreciated on different languages, and since this is an English forum, is not courteous to make posts that non spanish speakers cannot understand.

I try to post songs which -I hope- can be enjoyed beyond the language. So going deeper on Juana Molina is an idea that I don't like too much.

She likes to tell you the things you don't want to hear, and breaking the rules. She likes to disappoint; is for people who likes to be disappointed. She's a weirdo:

Los hongos de Marosa


Vive sólo

Argento 11-13-2011 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaqarbal (Post 1117628)
...
They say there are two Argentine-Spanish bands essential for the Spanish-language rock of all time: Tequila and Los Rodríguez (and I agree!).
...

On Tequila, I never heard a word about that band.

On Los Rodriguez, yes. Los Rodriguez' leader was Andrés Calamaro. He's a big name in Argentina.
Calamaro integrated numerous rock bands, although maybe Los Rodriguez was not "rock":

Sin documentos


Milonga del marinero y el capitán


Para no olvidar


Hace calor


Calamaro is a big name in Argentina. He made dozens of successful bands, although I hated one of his latest works, the album "On the rocks".

Argento 11-13-2011 03:12 PM

Other works by Calamaro:

Flaca


This song possibly is know in Mexico as a cover by Los Rodriguez, but it was originally composed for Fabiana Cantilo:

Dulce condena


Other songs composed -by Calamaro- for Fabiana Cantilo are those:

Mary Poppins y el deshollinador


Mi enfermedad


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