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Old 11-06-2011, 02:34 AM   #151 (permalink)
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Do you like to listen to Katy Perry? Look at all the popular genres from different eras. Most of them were different. In fact look at the music from the 60s and compare it to today's music. The quality is not the same yet people still loved the music. A lot of people today don't like music from the 60s. A lot of people from the 60s don't like music from today. People are not born with a preference in music. If someone listens to certain music long enough they will grow to like it. If Frank Zappa or any unorthodox artist from the 60s or 70s was marketed in the same manner as the Beatles eventually people would grow to like them.

Look at artists like Waka Flocka or Lil Wayne. Their music is mediocre. There's a reason people listen to them.

People from all different generations liked different clothes, different music etc. Much of this is due to the culture they are brought up in or whatever they were given.

It truly surprises me that many of you cannot understand something so simple.
Huh? No I dont like to listen to Katy Perry. I get what you're saying. Although I dont agree that the British invasion ruined anything, but lets not get into that. Mainstream media has a big effect on culture. All the kids will eat it up if it's packaged properly.

I think the question is, could someone like Zappa have been as popular as The Beatles even if he was marketed to the extent that The Beatles were? I'm not sure if he could have been. But he was and still is quite famous.

I'm sure this has already been discussed. Sorry for being late, haha.

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Old 11-06-2011, 03:30 AM   #152 (permalink)
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having read the last few pages, i think this whole thread is moot

like Professor Griff, I'm outta here

i have no interest with arguing with toddlers
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Old 11-06-2011, 04:26 AM   #153 (permalink)
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having read the last few pages, i think this whole thread is moot

like Professor Griff, I'm outta here

i have no interest with arguing with toddlers
You haven't even made real conversation in this thread. What's funny is that everything I'm saying has some truth to it. If you deny that then you come off as the toddler.
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I think the question is, could someone like Zappa have been as popular as The Beatles even if he was marketed to the extent that The Beatles were?
Popular music from the 60s and today sound nothing alike. People aren't born with a preference in music. If you shove music down someones throat enough eventually they will like it.
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Old 11-06-2011, 05:37 AM   #155 (permalink)
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Old 11-06-2011, 05:51 AM   #156 (permalink)
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The point isn't that Zappa should have had a big company to market him. The point is that if pop bands weren't filling the airwaves more people would be able to appreciate his work.

The Beatles played a huge role in bringing down culture. Obviously they don't fill the % but still they played a role. Music plays a big role. The music today is not furthering American culture. Justin Beiber, Lady GaGa, Lil Wayne and the likes play big roles in bringing down the American culture. That cannot be denied. And while the Beatles had better music the content of their lyrics were no better. I'm not saying they singlehandedly brought down the American culture but they played their part.
.........but Zappa didn`t have a big company to promote him, as they chose not to, can`t you get it into your dense skull that his music in the 1960s was not marketable.

You do yourself no favours either, by harping on about how the Beatles helped to bring down a culture.......why don`t you expand on this fallacy?

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People are not born with a preference in music. If someone listens to certain music long enough they will grow to like it. If Frank Zappa or any unorthodox artist from the 60s or 70s was marketed in the same manner as the Beatles eventually people would grow to like them.

It truly surprises me that many of you cannot understand something so simple.
Thanks for opening our minds up with the above pile of nonsense. So based on your logic, every kid around today will grow up to like Lady Gaga! Everything in life is just not black and white, there are huge grey areas in between.

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What's funny is that everything I'm saying has some truth to it.
More of your arrogant bollocks.

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Popular music from the 60s and today sound nothing alike. People aren't born with a preference in music. If you shove music down someones throat enough eventually they will like it.
I grew up listening to bands like Madness and Spandau Ballet etc as when I was at school, as that was what was being shoved downs people`s throats. I hated those bands then, I equally detest them now, so that pretty much kicks your hypothesis in the head.

Out of interest what age group are you?
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Old 11-06-2011, 06:43 AM   #157 (permalink)
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.........but Zappa didn`t have a big company to promote him, as they chose not to, can`t you get it into your dense skull that his music in the 1960s was not marketable.

You do yourself no favours either, by harping on about how the Beatles helped to bring down a culture.......why don`t you expand on this fallacy?



Thanks for opening our minds up with the above pile of nonsense. So based on your logic, every kid around today will grow up to like Lady Gaga! Everything in life is just not black and white, there are huge grey areas in between.



More of your arrogant bollocks.



I grew up listening to bands like Madness and Spandau Ballet etc as when I was at school, as that was what was being shoved downs people`s throats. I hated those bands then, I equally detest them now, so that pretty much kicks your hypothesis in the head.

Out of interest what age group are you?
Do you even read my comments? My goodness. It doesn't matter what decade you're in. If you're marketed enough you'll sell. It isn't hard to understand. It seems you just don't get it.

I already explained pages ago how the Beatles were a part of bringing down the culture. Go read and stop wasting my time asking questions I've already answered.

Go on YouTube and see how many views Lady GaGa and Justin Beiber have. They have great marketing. That's why they sell. The Backstreet Boys also sold millions and millions of albums but they were crap. Madonna sold millions of albums but she was crap. I don't care if you don't listen to their music. Millions and millions of people do.

Marketing=sells. If Zappa was marketed by a big company there's no doubt he is even more famous than he already is.

Just read my post without your own bias or argumentative spirit and see the obvious. It's very hard to see people not understand simple things like this.
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