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Old 10-31-2011, 05:01 PM   #21 (permalink)
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In 500 years the music will be so advanced that even the best music of today will seem like a pile of crap.
Explain why music 200 years ago is more advanced than today.
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Old 10-31-2011, 05:09 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Explain why music 200 years ago is more advanced than today.
He is right. Some things like technical ability aren't subjective.
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Old 10-31-2011, 05:12 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Explain why music 200 years ago is more advanced than today.
Musical subjectivity is based on how well the music appeases the mind. In 500 years humans would know so much about the mind that it's plausible to think music will be used as a drug for depression and also a stimulant in war.
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Old 10-31-2011, 05:16 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Music is mostly subjective, but there is some objectivity to it.
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Old 10-31-2011, 05:29 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Music *can* be divided into "good" and "bad" music, but, like others have said, those opinions are subjective.

If you choose criteria by which to judge a piece of music, such as the technical prowess of the musician, then this may allow you to rank songs somewhat objectively based on their difficulty. However, this doesn't mean that someone would judge more technical pieces of music to be "better" than music played by less skillful musicians. I often like simpler pieces of music better than technically challenging ones. And some people like crude music with out-of-tune singing. People like Stu.

I don't think that greater knowledge of the mind will allow music to be created that better appeases the mind, especially since many musical preferences appear to be based on culture, and cultural preferences change rapidly. I say that music in 500 years will sound different than music now, but it won't be more "advanced."
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Musical subjectivity is based on how well the music appeases the mind. In 500 years humans would know so much about the mind that it's plausible to think music will be used as a drug for depression and also a stimulant in war.
in 500 years we'll be nuclear ash.
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Old 10-31-2011, 08:24 PM   #27 (permalink)
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The woman your talking about is just plain wrong....FACT!
Saying a type of music is good or bad is personal opinion and can only ever be an opinion.... i listen to all sorts of music and if i like it then i thinks its good, but what i say is good music others might not agree, thats just the way it is :P

p.s age doesn't even come into it.
I am always a person who like to listen to others. She told me that 10 years later I will not think as what I think now and at that time I will find out that some music are good and some are bad. I try to believe it but that is thing happens 10 years latter whatsoever. Now I agree with you guys and I like all sorts of music. Not all of them I like, but I just try to listen to them, for I get new feelings and feel good.
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Old 10-31-2011, 08:29 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Hi, kososa, as what you say, you mean there are both good and bad in music. So, can you what music is good and what is bad? I am also curious as Janszoon.
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And some people like crude music with out-of-tune singing.


That's my second Jandek video in the past 24 hours... I'm on a roll.
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Old 11-01-2011, 02:44 AM   #30 (permalink)
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That's my second Jandek video in the past 24 hours... I'm on a roll.
Yes, exactly...that's the kind of music I meant!

I would hate it if music could be separated into good and bad. I love that art in all its forms is essentially a judgment-free zone: no one's opinion of art is any more valid than anyone else's. We are all right.
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