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eraser.time206

11-10-2011 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1117788)

i think Dream Theater may not be the worst rock band ever but they do come close

Dream Theater is NOWHERE near being the worst rock band of all time (they're not even a rock band). Their music can be amazing if in the mood.

Do you really think they're worse than the Monkees, Jonas Brothers, Bee Gees, Slipknot, Green Day, Korn and all the other crap bands I don't know?

They lack emotion but their music is very interesting.

Howard the Duck

11-10-2011 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by eraser.time206 (Post 1117853)

Dream Theater is NOWHERE near being the worst rock band of all time (they're not even a rock band). Their music can be amazing if in the mood.

Do you really think they're worse than the Monkees, Jonas Brothers, Bee Gees, Slipknot, Green Day, Korn and all the other crap bands I don't know?

They lack emotion but their music is very interesting.

yes

except for Jonas Brothers, which i haven't heard enough of

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Originally Posted by eraser.time206 (Post 1117853)

and all the other crap bands I don't know?

how would you know if they're crap if you don't know them or heard them?

i wouldn't place too much credo on word of mouth or critics in general

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Originally Posted by eraser.time206 (Post 1117853)

(they're not even a rock band)

they're playing prog-rock - it would fit under the penumbra

how would you classify them as? jazz? classical?

it may sound like i'm needling you unnecessarily, but your posts sound rather un-informed, and remember, mine is just an opinion, you need not get so worked up about it - but at least i try to justify my opinion and answer you point-by-point

you, on the other hand, just pick and choose what seems like "attacks" whilst ignoring my other valid points

Unknown Soldier

11-10-2011 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by eraser.time206 (Post 1117853)

Dream Theater are a rock band (very technical) who just added prog tendencies to their sound along with metal, listening to Dream Theater especially on their earlier material its easy to see where most of their musical influences came from and they were from prog bands like Rush and especially Kansas, along with AOR acts like Journey and Toto etc.

The acts that you`ve named are crap, but as said don`t take too much notice of music critics about who is good and bad. It still amazes me, that when you look at say "Rolling Stone`s" greatest 500 albums of all time list, that almost 50% of those albums were slammed and given the thumbs down on their initial release by the same magazine and years or decades later they were seen as claasics.

eraser.time206

11-10-2011 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1117856)

how would you classify them as? jazz? classical?

They're Progressive Metal.

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Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1117856)

it may sound like i'm needling you unnecessarily, but your posts sound rather un-informed, and remember, mine is just an opinion, you need not get so worked up about it - but at least i try to justify my opinion and answer you point-by-point

you, on the other hand, just pick and choose what seems like "attacks" whilst ignoring my other valid points

You think I'm riled up? Haha. I'm not mad at all.

So you think Korn is a better band than Dream Theater?

eraser.time206

11-10-2011 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1117865)

"Rolling Stone`s" greatest 500 albums of all time list

39. "Please Please Me" by the Beatles
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43. "Dark Side of the Moon" by Pink Floyd
66: "Led Zeppelin IV" by Led Zeppelin

It's a crap list.

Unknown Soldier

11-10-2011 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by eraser.time206 (Post 1117867)

39. "Please Please Me" by the Beatles
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43. "Dark Side of the Moon" by Pink Floyd
66: "Led Zeppelin IV" by Led Zeppelin

It's a crap list.

Are these the only 3 you like? Or are you saying these 3 are crap?

eraser.time206

11-10-2011 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1117873)

Are these the only 3 you like? Or are you saying these 3 are crap?

They put one of the Beatles early albums above Dark Side of the Moon and Led Zeppelin IV. That is crap.

eraser.time206

11-10-2011 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1117788)

i have Images & Words and have heard most of their "hits" - they bore me till no end, and I&W is supposedly their "best" album and if that's their best, i certainly wouldn't want to trifle with the others

Octavarium is their best album. You should give it a listen. I don't think it's a good idea to listen to one album and a few songs to determine how good a band is. When I first listened to Genesis I had no interest in them but after giving them a real chance I grew to like them. Give Octavarium a try. I think you might like it.

Unknown Soldier

11-10-2011 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by eraser.time206 (Post 1117876)

They put one of the Beatles early albums above Dark Side of the Moon and Led Zeppelin IV. That is crap.

I prefer the Zeppelin and Floyd album to that Beatles one, but you need to remember that the list takes into consideration just how influential an album is as well. That Beatles album pretty much started off the Beatles legend, I`m not saying that the other two albums were any less influential but the Beatles were the most influential of the three bands. Also in a list of the best 500 albums, whether a band is 39, 43 or 66 becomes quite irrelevant.

Janszoon

11-10-2011 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by eraser.time206 (Post 1117525)

I enjoy their music very much. I found a quote on the internet and I would like to share it with you. If you are a musician or work with music on a very personal and professional level could you give me your take on this?

"I'm a 17 year guitarist and 7 year recording engineer. My opinion of Dream Theatre is simply that their music stems deeper than anyone here can even probably understand. They are all mathematical geniuses, well schooled in Theory at Berkeley Music. These guys can play any style of music they want to by simply using the "Formula" for that music. Different styles of music use different scales and intervals, creating unique harmonic overtones to that style. Egyptian, Persian, Japanese, Neapolitan, Spanish, etc. When you understand music a little more, you can hear different things, your ears are more receptive and your always trying to understand what they are playing. They are indeed "MASTERS" of the trade and no one can come close to the talent these guys possess. Maybe some of the earlier masters, Mozart, Beethoven, Bach, but that's it."

- Melodyssey

Thank you for your input.

My thought is that this person needs to learn that it's spelled "Berklee" not "Berkeley". Berkeley is a different school on the opposite coast famous for completely different reasons.

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