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Unknown Soldier 11-09-2011 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by s_k (Post 1117538)
It's a product, not music in the first place. but I realise that it lacks a bit of feel.

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Originally Posted by RMR (Post 1117541)
I think each release got worse and more formulaic, but a lot of their music lacks an emotional component; therefore, some of it doesn't resonate with me at all.

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Originally Posted by RMR (Post 1117542)
can lack a certain feel or emotional resonance-- and that doesn't come from a math formula.

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Originally Posted by eraser.time206 (Post 1117543)
I do agree that their music feels a bit lifeless.

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Originally Posted by Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra (Post 1117562)
Matters how badly you have insomnia.

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1117566)
bores me to death. Lifeless describes it rather well and I'd much rather listen to Coldplay. even live it lacked any luster. I would call it tedious and severely lacking.

You lot seem to be confusing DT with Eric Clapton here.:p:

s_k 11-09-2011 10:50 AM

I never liked clapton, except for a yardbirds song and a couple of cream songs.
I do like DT ;)

RMR 11-09-2011 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by eraser.time206 (Post 1117525)
I enjoy their music very much. I found a quote on the internet and I would like to share it with you. If you are a musician or work with music on a very personal and professional level could you give me your take on this?

"I'm a 17 year guitarist and 7 year recording engineer. My opinion of Dream Theatre is simply that their music stems deeper than anyone here can even probably understand. They are all mathematical geniuses, well schooled in Theory at Berkeley Music. These guys can play any style of music they want to by simply using the "Formula" for that music. Different styles of music use different scales and intervals, creating unique harmonic overtones to that style. Egyptian, Persian, Japanese, Neapolitan, Spanish, etc. When you understand music a little more, you can hear different things, your ears are more receptive and your always trying to understand what they are playing. They are indeed "MASTERS" of the trade and no one can come close to the talent these guys possess. Maybe some of the earlier masters, Mozart, Beethoven, Bach, but that's it."

The quote sounds like something that I would have written about Rush when I was in middle school, at which time I was completely obsessed with them. They are still my favorite band, but I would never make a claim like the one in the quote above now, or even call them the greatest band ever... there has to be a clear difference between personal favorites and everything else, and that is true in anything, not just music.

FRED HALE SR. 11-09-2011 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RMR (Post 1117594)
The quote sounds like something that I would have written about Rush when I was in middle school, at which time I was completely obsessed with them. They are still my favorite band, but I would never make a claim like the one in the quote above now, or even call them the greatest band ever... there has to be a clear difference between personal favorites and everything else, and that is true in anything, not just music.

Well then your assessment of DT in middle school would have been correct if that were the case. Personal favorites or not, if something sounds like drivel to MY EARS, then its exactly that to me. DT does bore me, its clear everytime i hear them. DT just lacks any punch whatsoever, its needless noodling. Enjoy.

FRED HALE SR. 11-09-2011 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1117586)
You lot seem to be confusing DT with Eric Clapton here.:p:

Clapton at least has some feeling in his music, it doesn't have that robotic feel that DT does. I'd probably rather listen to Coldplay also, good point.

RMR 11-09-2011 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1117598)
Well then your assessment of DT in middle school would have been correct if that were the case. Personal favorites or not, if something sounds like drivel to MY EARS, then its exactly that to me. DT does bore me, its clear everytime i hear them. DT just lacks any punch whatsoever, its needless noodling. Enjoy.

Fred, my bad... I meant to quote the original quote from the original poster, not from your post. I'll edit my comment.

FRED HALE SR. 11-09-2011 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by RMR (Post 1117604)
Fred, my bad... I meant to quote the original quote from the original poster, not from your post. I'll edit my comment.

No worries. I thought there was something abstract going on here. DT does that to people. :drummer:

Unknown Soldier 11-09-2011 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by s_k (Post 1117593)
I never liked clapton, except for a yardbirds song and a couple of cream songs.
I do like DT ;)

Cream were great, but that was largely thanks to Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker.

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1117608)
No worries. I thought there was something abstract going on here. DT does that to people. :drummer:

Ever since I`ve been a member on this forum, DT probably rank up there as one of the most hated bands on here. Personally I really like em and have quite a few of their albums, but I also see why a large number of people would dislike them though and they probably wouldn`t be very high on my list of bands to see live.

FRED HALE SR. 11-09-2011 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1117611)
Cream were great, but that was largely thanks to Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker.



Ever since I`ve been a member on this forum, DT probably rank up there as one of the most hated bands on here. Personally I really like em and have quite a few of their albums, but I also see why a large number of people would dislike them though and they probably wouldn`t be very high on my list of bands to see live.

I never hold any hate in my heart for a band. I honestly can see these guys have talent. They can play any speed they want, they're technically gifted, and they have a huge fanbase. I don't enjoy their music, but it gets a bit ridiculous when people say they hate a band. My friend happened to have an extra ticket to see them live so I went. They sound great live, for what they do, what they do just doesn't impress me much.

Howard the Duck 11-09-2011 11:07 PM

i think Dream Theater may not be the worst rock band ever but they do come close (i'd nominate Dragonforce as the worst rock band ever, but i digress)

i have Images & Words and have heard most of their "hits" - they bore me till no end, and I&W is supposedly their "best" album and if that's their best, i certainly wouldn't want to trifle with the others

i also don't think they're fit to be mentioned in the same breath as Tool (who takes a lot from King Crimson and add their own slant to it) or Rush (who are quite enjoyable in their pomposity or just their FM rock staple songs)

sure, they're technical - any musician can go to a research station in Antartica and learn theory, composition and skill for 10 years or so, but if it doesn't sound captivating, he/she might as well stay there for the rest of his/her life


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