Is technical ability everything?

blastingas10 · 11-30-2011, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Pat

Great! Now just apply this mode of thinking to music.

To be on topic, I'll go ahead and say I prefer creativity and innovation to technical ability. However, like Janszoon said earlier, technical ability can open doors for people when it comes to composing and playing music. It really just depends on the scenario.

I was applying it to art in general.

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

Gee, that's a wonderful way to frame a debate: "The are hip people who are able to think outside of the box, and there are boorish ****s who can't - only the latter would dislike Picasso."

That's not really what I said. I said nothing about being hip or boorish. I just said that some people don't have much imagination for that kind of thing. Think those kinds of people don't exist? They certainly do.

TockTockTock · 11-30-2011, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10

I was applying it to art in general.

What I meant was try to be as open-minded towards abstract music as you are towards abstract art.

blastingas10 · 11-30-2011, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Pat

What I meant was try to be as open-minded towards abstract music as you are towards abstract art.

I'm guessing you're talking about that haino guy. Well I never denied that he was doing something that went beyond conventional music. I'm pretty sure my words were "I get that he's going beyond the conventions of music." I am open-minded enough to realize what he does, I just don't like him. Are their other avant garde guitarists that I like? Sure.

Sorry for getting off topic. Just had to clear this up.

**Janszoon** · 11-30-2011, 09:44 PM

And for the record Pablo Picasso isn't abstract art.

blastingas10 · 12-01-2011, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

And for the record Pablo Picasso isn't abstract art.

He was a pioneer of cubism. Although Cubism ultimately depends upon subject matter, it became, along with Fauvism, the art movement that directly opened the door to abstraction in the 20th century.

**Janszoon** · 12-01-2011, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10

He was a pioneer of cubism. Although Cubism ultimately depends upon subject matter, it became, along with Fauvism, the art movement that directly opened the door to abstraction in the 20th century.

That may be true but it's doesn't make him an abstract artist.

blastingas10 · 12-01-2011, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

That may be true but it's doesn't make him an abstract artist.

You're right. I never said he was. But I think some of his work leaned more on the concrete side, like the picture you posted. And some of his work had a little more abstract qualities.

~~Odyshape~~ · 12-06-2011, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

That may be true but it's doesn't make him an abstract artist.

What qualifies something as abstract. I hear this word used all the time but I really don't have much of a clue as to what it means.

Ben Butler · 12-07-2011, 09:36 AM

Obviously you have to master the technical ability because they're the basics, but to stand out from the crowd, you do indeed have to think outside the box as I like to put it.

Necromancer · 12-07-2011, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben Butler

Obviously you have to master the technical ability because they're the basics, but to stand out from the crowd, you do indeed have to think outside the box as I like to put it.

I agree, as well Ben. Stage Presence is the key to success for any musician/artist.

Ive personally known a few guitarist that were just phenomenal, but on stage they seemed to resonate a boring personality.

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