Sopa

Guybrush · 01-18-2012, 10:15 AM

It's pretty ridiculous what they're trying to do with the SOPA/PIPA bills.

One thing I found ridiculous is that they want to hold domains responsible for everything that goes on on them, regardless of who does it. It will essentially cripple all US multi-user domains like blogspot, youtube or this website. Okay, I'm not sure if they're all based in the US, but they would be ****ed if they were and this bill got passed.

edit :

Not 100% sure about this, but it looks like you could (in theory) get jailtime simply for embedding youtube videos in your blog posts.

midnight rain · 01-18-2012, 10:36 AM

Yeah there are some very large holes in this act. I'm pretty sure I read that if a company has suspicion of copyright infringement or piracy, they can shut the site down with this act. Not to mention what tore said about individual actions representing the site as a whole.

I truly believe piracy is nowhere near as big a problem as the government makes it out to be. The mistake the RIAA, Hollywood, ESA, US Government and all the other idiot entertainment companies make when campaigning against internet piracy is that they count every downloaded album/film/game as a lost sale. Problem is, just because someone illegally downloaded something doesn't mean they would have bought it if they hadn't downloaded it. Which is why those very large numbers of lost sales they like to show off when campaigning against piracy are nowhere near accurate.

Phantom Limb · 01-18-2012, 10:49 AM

I just called my representatives and told them I strongly oppose the bills. I hope everyone else does the same.

~~Farfisa~~ · 01-18-2012, 10:53 AM

I hope you Scandinavians don't mind me coming over if this gets passed.

Burning Down · 01-18-2012, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantom Limb

I just called my representatives and told them I strongly oppose the bills. I hope everyone else does the same.

I wish I could. I can't believe the US wants to control how the rest of the world browses the Internet. Further proves the fact that the US government and the corporations who support SOPA only think for themselves.

Mykonos · 01-18-2012, 02:39 PM

https://twitter.com/#!/rupertmurdoch...21072943542272

https://twitter.com/#!/rupertmurdoch...77142495453184

****ing hypocritical idiot. I reached my wit's end with Murdoch's ignorant lies the minute I first saw them, and this is just laughably bad. As if a pornographer and spreader of hateful media would use 'blocking porn, hate speech' as justification for him supporting PIPA.

~~Rubato~~ · 01-18-2012, 05:04 PM

Hopefully Lamar Smith can see the dangers of this passing first hand.

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There had been some questions asked a few months ago about whether or not SOPA sponsor Lamar Smith had licenses to put up videos of news reports on his site, but that didn't seem like a huge deal (and was likely fair use anyway). However, the latest, as a ton of you are sending in, is that some enterprising folks at Vice discovered that Lamar Smith's campaign site was making use of a photograph in violation of its Creative Commons license. It seems this was what Lamar Smith's campaign website recently looked like

Quote:

I contacted DJ, to find out if Lamar had asked permission to use the image and he told me that he had no record of Lamar, or anyone from his organization, requesting permission to use it: "I switched my images from traditional copyright protection to be protected under the Creative Commons license a few years ago, which simply states that they can use my images as long as they attribute the image to me and do not use it for commercial purposes.

"I do not see anywhere on the screen capture that you have provided that the image was attributed to the source (me). So my conclusion would be that Lamar Smith's organization did improperly use my image.

Lamar Smith Caught Infringing On Photographer's Copyright | Techdirt

~~Farfisa~~ · 01-18-2012, 07:11 PM

If this gets passed, is anyone up for mass suicide in front of the white house?

~~Odyshape~~ · 01-18-2012, 07:52 PM

Its worth mentioning that the bill allows any service provider suspend a site from being viewed from not only actual copyright infringement but just even suspecting that a site is committing copyright infringement.

This man doesn't understand how the internet works.

~~Rubato~~ · 01-18-2012, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Odyshape

This man doesn't understand how the internet works.

nope, he just hates the internet.....and puppies.

01-18-2012, 10:15 AM	#31 (permalink)
Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	It's pretty ridiculous what they're trying to do with the SOPA/PIPA bills. One thing I found ridiculous is that they want to hold domains responsible for everything that goes on on them, regardless of who does it. It will essentially cripple all US multi-user domains like blogspot, youtube or this website. Okay, I'm not sure if they're all based in the US, but they would be ***ed if they were and this bill got passed. edit : Not 100% sure about this, but it looks like you could (in theory) get jailtime simply for embedding youtube videos in your blog posts. __________________ Something Completely Different* Last edited by Guybrush; 01-18-2012 at 10:26 AM.

01-18-2012, 02:39 PM	#36 (permalink)
Mykonos AWhatup Ganache? Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 381	https://twitter.com/#!/rupertmurdoch...21072943542272 https://twitter.com/#!/rupertmurdoch...77142495453184 ****ing hypocritical idiot. I reached my wit's end with Murdoch's ignorant lies the minute I first saw them, and this is just laughably bad. As if a pornographer and spreader of hateful media would use 'blocking porn, hate speech' as justification for him supporting PIPA. __________________ 'Not that Becktionary, the Rhyming Becktionary!'- Bender Bending Rodriguez

01-18-2012, 07:52 PM	#39 (permalink)
~~Odyshape~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 526	Its worth mentioning that the bill allows any service provider suspend a site from being viewed from not only actual copyright infringement but just even suspecting that a site is committing copyright infringement. This man doesn't understand how the internet works. Last edited by Odyshape; 01-18-2012 at 08:03 PM.

01-18-2012, 10:36 AM	#32 (permalink)
midnight rain Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,711	Yeah there are some very large holes in this act. I'm pretty sure I read that if a company has suspicion of copyright infringement or piracy, they can shut the site down with this act. Not to mention what tore said about individual actions representing the site as a whole. I truly believe piracy is nowhere near as big a problem as the government makes it out to be. The mistake the RIAA, Hollywood, ESA, US Government and all the other idiot entertainment companies make when campaigning against internet piracy is that they count every downloaded album/film/game as a lost sale. Problem is, just because someone illegally downloaded something doesn't mean they would have bought it if they hadn't downloaded it. Which is why those very large numbers of lost sales they like to show off when campaigning against piracy are nowhere near accurate.

01-18-2012, 10:53 AM	#34 (permalink)
~~Farfisa~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,773	I hope you Scandinavians don't mind me coming over if this gets passed.

01-18-2012, 07:11 PM	#38 (permalink)
~~Farfisa~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,773	If this gets passed, is anyone up for mass suicide in front of the white house?