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Problem is, she's still a rather shallow clone. So comparing the two is completely unfair, really. Madonna sucked, truly, but at least she wasn't a direct carbon copy clone of something 20 years before her. It's like tracing over a blue print, and then straightening out the lines. It may be more solid than the original, but, in the end, it's just a copy. |
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Their fan bases (buy her albums) consists of less than 0.5% of the world's population. It seems as if many more people enjoy their music because of the constant shoving in our face. They have some good songs I like but as a whole their albums aren't of high quality. |
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Besides, I'm not complimenting Madonna, far from it. I've always felt her formula was very childish, and her output is boring. Furthermore, I think the shock value of her videos is responsible for 99.9% of her success. I'm just saying that I kind of get tired of people sympathizing with Gaga and using the 'what if' of her inflated backstory to defend her. In the end, her decision to become a flat clone of Madonna came from her lack success in attempts to be a more legit musician. If she never took that step, she'd fade into obscurity, and doesn't deserve any sympathy really since there's a lot of people who stuck to their guns, bit the bullet of commercial obscurity, and have more talent that don't get the same 'respect' for it. Back to the topic of Madonna. I find it weird people are trying to argue she was a really talented musician. Maybe she associated herself with really talented producers. Maybe she knew how to dance(Which really, you can take dance lessons at any gym ever to exist, so I don't know why that's a distinct skill). But it was really just time, and place. She's not a very good singer, and not very attractive. However, at the time, she was a true taboo breaker for mainstream culture. |
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Lady Gaga isn't an exact clone of Madonna. I see more Bowie (her idol) in her to be honest.
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Seriously, though. Faking 'emotional' sounding piano work is the easiest thing to do on piano. You literally can hit any chord in any order, you just have to sustain them for a half note to a whole note, and dispense quarter note rests between them. |
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Here's the one I feel to be the most powerful. It's incredible on an organ, but he makes it nearly as good on the piano! |
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As for plagiarism, another word for it is influence. Everyone has influences, nothing is really completely original. What matters is whether what is done is done well or not. |
I'm surprised that she can even play any instrument.
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If you just stop for a while and listen, you can probably, from where you are, hear someone playing to the same standard. |
You're telling me everyone in england plays the piano?
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its very abstract. We get these ****ty 3rd-hand instruments no one ever learns how to play, we just learn smash them together in unison for 3 minutes and go from there. In 4th grade you can pay to join a recorder program if your parents will let you. Most kids learn hot cross buns and quit. I'm guessing also that this is the top of the public-school education because I'm living in a state (and grew up in a state) that routinely lands in the first or second spot of public education. And gym/art/music is usually the first program to be cut in a budget crunch. Its entierly possible much of the nation doesn't get even what I've mentioned. |
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Well, just listen to her again. She plays a few arpeggios, and then some chromatic scales which end with a dischord. Playing notes a semitone apart is a very easy thing to do. I'll wager most people in England could do the equivalent, and you'll definitely always be within earshot of someone who can.
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Who cares if it is challenging anyway? Is it good to listen too? I think most of her stuff is good mainstream pop.
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We're just trying to deflate claims that she's a good musician. |
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She's pretty good. Nobody who likes Lady Gaga cares about pianists anyway.
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That's the thing that Salami is trying to say, though. She's not that good, IE. she isn't notably good.
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By who's standards? Gaga fans compare her to Katy Perry, not a concert pianist.
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By standards of 90% of the people who defend her when I criticize her. You do make a good point, though, her appeal is not as a pianist but as a 'pop diva'.
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I wonder if there is a confusion here between overrated and overhyped. Just about every rock or pop musician with any fame is overhyped, it's how the business of it works. But I doubt many say Lady Gaga is a particularly great musician.
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I personally don't see her music or career as being so much overrated. Just "80s vibe" (danceable) pop music.
Into The Groove, Open Your Heart, Lucky Star, and Borderline are few personal favorites to mention. Live To Tell was always my favorite song by her. |
I thought you meant Lady Gaga for a moment!
Yes, that's the kind of slow, dramatic song that appealed to people so much in the 80's. |
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I'm serious. If I were trolling you, you'd already have made an ass of yourself.
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