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Key 04-16-2012 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RVCA (Post 1178846)
Though I like the Pumpkins, I do understand people who claim they can't enjoy the music because of Billy's singing. He's just got one of those love-hate voices.

He's also a colossal douche.

Instrumentally they're great. As I said, I think they'd do fine as a strict instrumental band. It'd be interesting to say the least.

Key 04-16-2012 11:36 PM

#93: Pink Floyd (Syd Barrett)

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  • I can't stomach Barrett's vocals.
  • The Piper At The Gates of Dawn has to be my least favorite Pink Floyd album ever. I've listened to it twice. Least listened album in my collection probably.
  • Once I heard The Wall and Animals, it was very difficult to stomach anything Barrett touched.
  • I personally feel that Pink Floyd got more success without Barrett involved.

I'll be fair and say that a Sauceful of Secrets was decent at best.


Howard the Duck 04-16-2012 11:52 PM

pretty much disagree with you about the Pumpkins and Floyd/Barrett

though i don't really like Siamese Dream much, i do adore Mellon Collie & The Infinite Sadness

and as for Piper, yes, it's overrated, but don't just casually dismiss Syd, at least hear his solo albums first

Key 04-16-2012 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1178873)
pretty much disagree with you about the Pumpkins and Floyd/Barrett

though i don't really like Siamese Dream much, i do adore Mellon Collie & The Infinite Sadness

and as for Piper, yes, it's overrated, but don't just casually dismiss Syd, at least hear his solo albums first

Disagreements are bound to happen, especially since this is an opinionated thread, not one built on fact. I've heard some of Barrett's solo work, and I didn't like it too much.

I just can't stomach anything from the Pumpkins when I am very not in love with the style of vocals.

Norg 04-17-2012 01:48 AM

MIKE PATTON

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  • man of 1,000 voices...prob one of the best voices in 'MUSIC"

    every band he fronts or album he puts out is a different music style or he is his own genre "patton music :o: " and pretty much put the term Alternative or ALt rock on the map

    i think he speaks like 3 different languages and he never ages seriously LOL meaing he looks good ...NO HOMO :D

    I like the way he uses every tool toy and music maker to add different sounds to his music

    ummm... he dissed Wolfmother LOL




Howard the Duck 04-17-2012 01:49 AM

uh, this is milano's 100 bands he loves or hates, it's not open to the public

and i would diss wolfmother, what's so funny about that?

Key 04-17-2012 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Norg (Post 1178908)
MIKE PATTON

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  • man of 1,000 voices...prob one of the best voices in 'MUSIC"

    every band he fronts or album he puts out is a different music style or he is his own genre "patton music :o: " and pretty much put the term Alternative or ALt rock on the map

    i think he speaks like 3 different languages and he never ages seriously LOL meaing he looks good ...NO HOMO :D

    I like the way he uses every tool toy and music maker to add different sounds to his music

    ummm... he dissed Wolfmother LOL




Um. Make your own thread...?

Norg 04-17-2012 01:56 AM

or it is i thought it was open to all of US ....:P

so selfish of this OP :D its all about him right : )

Key 04-17-2012 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Norg (Post 1178915)
or it is i thought it was open to all of US ....:P

so selfish of this OP :D its all about him right : )

Read the first post in the thread.

I'm not being selfish, it's a personal list of bands I like or hate. If you want to make one, do it. But don't post in mine. Not only is it not your place to say, it's also disrespectful.

I also find it kind of ironic how you say i'm selfish, yet you created both of these:

http://www.musicbanter.com/general-m...ist-songs.html & http://www.musicbanter.com/general-m...50-albums.html

Norg 04-17-2012 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by milano (Post 1178917)
Read the first post in the thread.

I'm not being selfish, it's a personal list of bands I like or hate. If you want to make one, do it. But don't post in mine. Not only is it not your place to say, it's also disrespectful.

I also find it kind of ironic how you say i'm selfish, yet you created both of these:

http://www.musicbanter.com/general-m...ist-songs.html & http://www.musicbanter.com/general-m...50-albums.html

Awww u caught me red handed yes i made thoes threads .....But i let them die a slow death LOL

Key 04-17-2012 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Norg (Post 1178918)
Awww u caught me red handed yes i made thoes threads .....But i let them die a slow death LOL

Point is. This is a thread I made for the 100 artists I love or hate, not a free for all for people to continue on with my countdown. So stop. It seems to be obvious to pretty much everybody else on this forum.

Key 04-17-2012 02:13 AM

#92: Jon Anderson (vocalist / solo)

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  • His range. His style.
  • I enjoy watching the Yes acoustic set on Youtube specifically to see how Anderson sounds. His voice may be a little whispy, but it's still great.
  • Animation is possibly one of the greatest albums i've ever heard.
  • He does the 80's style of music very very well.

Some greats off his Animation album:




Unknown Soldier 04-17-2012 02:25 AM

Well the whiny singing by Billy Corgan is not everybody's cup of tea and if you don't like the vocals, all that's left are the instrumentals to enjoy really.

I agree, Piper at the Gates of Dawn is one of the most overrated albums of the 1960s and if you don't enjoy it, you probably won't enjoy Syd's solo stuff much either, which is all rather patchy as the bloke was totally off his rocker by that stage. As far as A Saucerful of Secrets is concerned, Syd was only on about 2 or 3 songs anyway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norg (Post 1178915)
or it is i thought it was open to all of US ....:P

so selfish of this OP :D its all about him right : )

It would be complete mayhem if everybody posted their top 100 on the same thread:rolleyes:

Howard the Duck 04-17-2012 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1178922)
I agree, Piper at the Gates of Dawn is one of the most overrated albums of the 1960s and if you don't enjoy it, you probably won't enjoy Syd's solo stuff much either, which is all rather patchy as the bloke was totally off his rocker by that stage. As far as I A Saucerful of Secrets is concerned, Syd was only on about 2 or 3 songs anyway.

he was only on one song - "Jugband Blues" just to announce his madness

it seemed like he was on a few because Waters was copying his style

Unknown Soldier 04-17-2012 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by milano (Post 1178921)
Jon Anderson (vocalist / solo)

Jon Anderson falls into the same category as Geddy Lee as a vocalist, you either dig them or not, but both are instantly recognizable.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1178923)
he was only on one song - "Jugband Blues" just to announce his madness

it seemed like he was on a few because Waters was copying his style

"Jugband Blues" was certainly the most Syd song off that album.

Key 04-17-2012 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1178927)
Jon Anderson falls into the same category as Geddy Lee as a vocalist, you either dig them or not, but both are instantly recognizable.

Certainly.

What's your take on Jon Anderson as a solo artist?

Unknown Soldier 04-17-2012 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milano (Post 1178931)
Certainly.

What's your take on Jon Anderson as a solo artist?

Could never get into his solo stuff, neither his stuff with Vangelis either. I find the different components of Yes work much better as a cohesive whole. The only solo album by a Yes member that I ever liked, was by bassist Chris Squire on his debut album.

Key 04-17-2012 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1178938)
Could never get into his solo stuff, neither his stuff with Vangelis either. I find the different components of Yes work much better as a cohesive whole. The only solo album by a Yes member that I ever liked, was by bassist Chris Squire on his debut album.

That's easily understandable. Going from the technical proggy'ness of Yes as a whole to Jon Anderson solo isn't an easy thing to do comfortably. It personally took me a few spins of Animation to realize that it's not a Yes with Jon Anderson album, it's just a Jon Anderson album. He went for more of an 80's thing with his solo work, which i've come to enjoy a lot. But nothing can replace what i've come to love with Yes.

Frownland 04-17-2012 08:22 PM

Yeah, Syd's Pink Floyd is an entirely different animal than their mainstream rush. What's your opinion on Pink Floyd when it was headed by David Gilmour? By this I mean A Momentary Lapse of Reason and The Division Bell.

Key 04-17-2012 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1179273)
Yeah, Syd's Pink Floyd is an entirely different animal than their mainstream rush. What's your opinion on Pink Floyd when it was headed by David Gilmour? By this I mean A Momentary Lapse of Reason and The Division Bell.

I didn't so much like The Division Bell but I have listened to A Momentary Lapse quite a few times and enjoyed it.

Howard the Duck 04-17-2012 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milano (Post 1179276)
I didn't so much like The Division Bell but I have listened to A Momentary Lapse quite a few times and enjoyed it.

opposite for me

DB is like a quintessential 90s AOR album by a former complex prog band, much like Genesis' We Can't Dance

AMLOR is like trying to hold on to past glories, but it didn't gel without Waters

Key 04-17-2012 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1179277)
opposite for me

DB is like a quintessential 90s AOR album by a former complex prog band, much like Genesis' We Can't Dance

AMLOR is like trying to hold on to past glories, but it didn't gel without Waters

It's not that Division Bell is bad or anything, I just didn't hear any real Pink Floyd in it. I'm always under the impression that Pink Floyd were not really that great until Roger Waters joined. Anything before the time of Waters is just irrelevant.

ladyislingering 04-17-2012 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by milano (Post 1179282)
Anything before the time of Waters is just irrelevant.

Don't forget that "Wish You Were Here" (as an entire album) was mostly in dedication to Syd.

Howard the Duck 04-17-2012 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milano (Post 1179282)
It's not that Division Bell is bad or anything, I just didn't hear any real Pink Floyd in it. I'm always under the impression that Pink Floyd were not really that great until Roger Waters joined. Anything before the time of Waters is just irrelevant.

yeah and i love it just because it doesn't sound like a typical Pink Floyd album

Key 04-17-2012 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyislingering (Post 1179284)
Don't forget that "Wish You Were Here" (as an entire album) was mostly in dedication to Syd.

Yeah, though unfortunately that's not an album that gets a lot of spins as other Floyd albums. The track Wish You Were Here is one of my favorites for the sheer fact of how emotional it is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1179285)
yeah and i love it just because it doesn't sound like a typical Pink Floyd album

I'll try to give it another listen from a non Pink Floyd perspective in that case. Perhaps that may change my opinion on it.

Frownland 04-17-2012 09:06 PM

I found both of them to really be David Gilmour albums that took away from Pink Floyd's sound, myself. Both Momentary Lapse of Reason and The Division Bell have several beautiful moments but I still find it hard to see it as a Pink Floyd album.

ladyislingering 04-17-2012 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milano (Post 1179287)
Yeah, though unfortunately that's not an album that gets a lot of spins as other Floyd albums. The track Wish You Were Here is one of my favorites for the sheer fact of how emotional it is.

Many songs from that album get a ton of radioplay (Wish You Were Here, a little bit of Shine On You Crazy Diamond, Have a Cigar, etc.) and it's less ignored than the later albums (The Final Cut, Division Bell, etc.) so I don't know. That's a little bold.

The title track is a killer though; it's been a long time since I've been able to hear it and not cry.

Key 04-17-2012 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ladyislingering (Post 1179309)
Many songs from that album get a ton of radioplay (Wish You Were Here, a little bit of Shine On You Crazy Diamond, Have a Cigar, etc.) and it's less ignored than the later albums (The Final Cut, Division Bell, etc.) so I don't know. That's a little bold.

The title track is a killer though; it's been a long time since I've been able to hear it and not cry.

I'll be fair and say that I imagine first time Floyd listeners tend to listen to Wish You Were Here as one of their first Floyd albums because it has more...familiar songs. In another case, there are people who start off with Dark Side of The Moon which really doesn't make any sense to me. If anything, Dark Side of The Moon should be one of the less popular albums. Not that it's bad or anything, but personally, I wouldn't recommend it as a starter.

ladyislingering 04-17-2012 09:48 PM

Too much hype over DSOTM; if you go into a band/album with expectations you acquired from their fanbase or general popularity you're bound to be disappointed.

Key 04-17-2012 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ladyislingering (Post 1179318)
Too much hype over DSOTM; if you go into a band/album with expectations you acquired from their fanbase or general popularity you're bound to be disappointed.

Pretty much. It's like the way it is for ACDC fans and saying that Back In Black is their best work. It's not a terrible album, but certainly not their best.

Howard the Duck 04-17-2012 10:23 PM

i started with DSOTM, didn't really put me off them, but it's not great or anything

my fave AC/DC is "Black Ice"

Key 04-17-2012 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1179328)
my fave AC/DC is "Black Ice"

I think Black Ice is incredible. It got a lot of flack for some reason, but it was great from front to back.

Key 04-18-2012 12:55 AM

#91: Tarja (Vocalist / solo)

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  • With Nightwish, one of the greatest bands with a female vocalist. Without Nightwish, one of the most boring and carried on vocalists.
  • Just doesn't sound right without the addition of Emppu on guitars. It brought a unique and powerful experience to the rest of the group.
  • She did a collab on her What Lies Beneath with Joe Satriani called Falling Awake.
    ...Joe Satriani was the only reason I listened to the album to that point.
  • Honestly, she should try to find another band she can sing for. She does it naturally and great. I would pay to see her perform if that were the case.
  • I feel like i'm listening to opera when I listen to her solo work. I'm not dissing on opera, but Tarja is not an opera singer.

Falling Awake (with Joe Satriani)

Key 04-18-2012 01:00 AM

I've added a list to the first post of this thread with the artists I've currently done.


Key 04-18-2012 04:26 PM

#90: Madonna

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  • Listened to her a lot in high school, I remember scrolling through my iPod and seeing Bedtime Stories on the list. Unfortunately, it wasn't a very frequent listen then, but it was still fun to listen to.
  • Recently acquired her self titled "Madonna" on vinyl. Instantly fell in love with her again after hearing that album.
  • I remember dancing in a parade a few years back up in Seattle and Madonna was heard through the speakers. I was in a bit of shock for about a couple seconds until I realized that it was her playing. Such a fun experience.
  • I'm not always so fond of female vocalist, for whatever reason, but she tends to be an exception whenever the topic comes up. I have nothing against women singing, it's just not something I listen to often enough.

Some songs from her self titled debut:



Howard the Duck 04-18-2012 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milano (Post 1179668)
I'm not always so fond of female vocalist, for whatever reason, but she tends to be an exception whenever the topic comes up. I have nothing against women singing, it's just not something I listen to often enough.

same here as well, for some reason, i dislike the timbre and pitch of a female voice singing

Key 04-18-2012 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1179752)
same here as well, for some reason, i dislike the timbre and pitch of a female voice singing

If the women is singing alone, I just can't stomach it.

However, if a female singer is the frontman of the group, I tend to be more lenient. Especially with groups like Abba, Nightwish, and Arch Enemy.

Howard the Duck 04-18-2012 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milano (Post 1179762)
If the women is singing alone, I just can't stomach it.

However, if a female singer is the frontman of the group, I tend to be more lenient. Especially with groups like Abba, Nightwish, and Arch Enemy.

pretty much the same for me, but it also depends on what kind of band, really

i love The New Pornographers when Neko sings, and that's mostly due to the power-pop

Key 04-18-2012 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1179764)
pretty much the same for me, but it also depends on what kind of band, really

i love The New Pornographers when Neko sings, and that's mostly due to the power-pop

I suppose we could throw The Carpenters into the equation as well. Karen has got some serious pipes.

Howard the Duck 04-18-2012 08:24 PM

^^yeah, I love the Carpenters

that's just mostly due to the structure of the songs, they sound like pop, but use complex jazz chords


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