I don't like Music.

The Bullet · 04-29-2012, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mr dave

Brian Eno - Music for Airports

@Dave, my respect for you just doubled.
@Hal, just to let you know, I really won't be offended if you don't listen to everything I just posted in my... thing that I wrote when I was stilll trying to wake up, having had insomnia last night.

HAL9000 · 04-29-2012, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bullet

@Dave, my respect for you just doubled.
@Hal, just to let you know, I really won't be offended if you don't listen to everything I just posted in my... thing that I wrote when I was stilll trying to wake up, having had insomnia last night.

Haha, I know the feeling. Don't worry I will take a stroll through some of it at least.

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Originally Posted by The Bullet

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First of all, I need to ask you, when you hear music, can you identify some sort of mood that it conveys? I'm not asking if you can feel that mood. I can see you can't, but do you know what mood its trying to convey?

I believe I can, having not conferred with others on this, I can't guarantee that I'm getting the inferring the right emotion from the music, but I believe that I can.

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Feeling the message of the music can only come after knowing the message of the music, which can both change throughout a song, be conveyed by rapidly changing moods in the song (the stuff that comes to my mind for this one isn't for a noobie, but still) or slowly be painted by a song.

That makes sense.

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Second of all, you said music can add to a movie, but why can it? Can it paint an image in your mind that's strikingly close to what you see on screen? I definitely see pictures in my mind when I listen to music.

The prime example I would give here, is the Jaws soundtrack, on it's own it doesn't illicit thoughts of sharks, but it does build suspense, when combined with the imagery it makes for a more suspenseful scene than the images alone or the music alone.

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which could be your problem. Charts literally make music for people like you execpt in denial who think they both like music AND can dance. They have their place, it isn't helping a guy discover music.

That makes perfect sense, but as I don't really know where to go to find music, without having some pre-existing frame of reference, I'm at a loss about where to start.

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I don't really know where to go from here execpt post a bunch of music I think is awesome that hopefully you might too. Other MB'ers will laugh at me because my knowledge of music is minimal compared to theirs, but nonetheless, here I am visiting the top part of this post after the rest of it done wondering if I'm insane for taking the time to compile all this (basically my entire taste) for someone who probably won't care at all. Oh well, as much as I'm twitching my eye angry at myself that I was... in a way, cocky enough to do this, thinking my taste was so awesome, I just did it, so I'm gonna post it. I'd be surprised if you didn't find something anyways, and if nothing else, I have a nice little Bullet compilation now... Here goes...

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Note: These songs really depend on sub-bass, and I'm not entirely sure earbuds support frequencies low enough to play these fairly. Ipod earbuds and laptop speakers def won't. At the very least, the Skream would be as butchered as a violin concierto without the violin. If your speakers can FAIRLY play the bass in thing, as in, you can clearly hear the notes sustain, you're fine.

If not, I understand that you won't go out and buy even a cheap pair of headphones because its worthless to you (though hopefully by the end of this post it will be worth something,) so, I don't know, skip this section until you can borrow them from a friend or something? You could probably play these in your car or something.

I actually do have a good (In my opinion) pair of Sennheiser headphones, which I use for watching films occasionally, so I'll break them out

I'll give some of this stuff a listen, later on this evening and get back to you

Chrysalis · 04-29-2012, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by HAL9000

but as I don't really know where to go to find music, without having some pre-existing frame of reference, I'm at a loss about where to start.

-Pandora. If you like any of the songs that The Bullet posted, just type it in, and Pandora will create a station filled with songs that have similar musical qualities.
-last.fm. Another site with online radio stations. Once you have a music collection and add it to your library, you can go listen to your Recommended station, which is comprised of artists similar to what you listen to (although it's not always accurate. I don't think that Sigur Rós are similar to Radiohead).
-RateYourMusic. The custom charts can be useful if you're looking for specific genres, albums released in a certain year/decade, etc.

Arya Stark · 04-29-2012, 10:58 AM

Actually, I think the fact that you appreciate music when it's in films and shows and everything shows a little more than just "it being there."

Music is there for a reason.
They don't just pick a random song and go with it.
They search of one, try to get one that has a good feel to it, one that fits the situation.
Start there, maybe you'll appreciate music once you realize how much work goes into it and goes into using it.

On that note, I think going to a different forum is a bad idea.
The people who said that are being rude.
I would love to think that we're the reason you began to appreciate music.
Any type of music.

The Bullet · 04-29-2012, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HAL9000

Haha, I know the feeling. Don't worry I will take a stroll through some of it at least.

I believe I can, having not conferred with others on this, I can't guarantee that I'm getting the inferring the right emotion from the music, but I believe that I can.

I was asking if you felt any emotion was implied by music, not necessarily a "right" emotion, because any art form is suggestive. You're talking about the intended emotion. I almost believed based on your post that you didn't even see music as a volume of expression.

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The prime example I would give here, is the Jaws soundtrack, on it's own it doesn't illicit thoughts of sharks, but it does build suspense, when combined with the imagery it makes for a more suspenseful scene than the images alone or the music alone.

I can confidently say from this that you're clearly not completely numb to music even if you think you are. You let it effect you when you watch these movies, why can't it effect you anywhere else? Don't get me wrong, music and image can combine to create something greater than either one alone, and if you're simply not a music person as much as you are some other type of artist that's cool with me. I'm just saying that you might have a sour attitude toward it that might not really be helping you. I find myself using music as backing noise sometimes, too, usually when I search the web. I'm not exactly proud of it, as I feel like as someone who will probably end up a musician myself I should give it more respect, but I still find myself doing it occasionally. There are other times where I can really pay attention to the same music, let it throw through me, and wonder how I ever could've ignored it and had it as background noise. Attitude effects everything.

ThePhanastasio · 04-29-2012, 10:16 PM

The music used in films is often atmospheric, helping to convey a message and accentuating the visual medium so. The popular music on the charts, while occasionally containing undeniable emotion and messages, is for its primary purpose meant to appeal to a wide audience. As such, it's not going to resonate with most as deeply as some other sorts of music, but it's still going to affect most in the form of foot tapping, head bobbing, or some other similar acknowledgment.

You say that you like the music from films, acknowledging that they seem to add something to the films. With that knowledge, I'm trying to find some songs that could potentially appeal to you.

Atmospheric / Depressive Black Metal:
Some of these have some screaming, but the ones selected are musically atmospheric and competent, and really do evoke strong emotions via the music itself.

Woods of Desolation - Somehow...

Midnight Odyssey - Never To Return

Petrychor - Of Grandest Majesties

Photophobia - If My World Ends Without You

Heretoir - To Follow the Sun

Shoegaze / Post-Rock / Dream Pop
Several genres, just a few to represent their vibe

My Bloody Valentine - Sometimes

Ride - Seagull

Seefeel - Spangle

World's End Girlfriend - Garden In the Ceiling

Mono - Moonlight

Mazzy Star - Fade Into You

Pale Saints - Shell

Prog / Prog-ish
Just a few of these.

Porcupine Tree - Gravity Eyelids

Dream Theater - As I Am

Assorted Stuff
Other things which came to mind

David Lynch feat. Karen O - Pinky's Dream

Tuxedomoon - The Cascade

Ben Butler · 04-30-2012, 02:04 AM

I've not come across many people that don't like music.

aasia100 · 04-30-2012, 03:15 AM

If you don’t like music, please don’t call yourself a human..

Urban Hat€monger ? · 04-30-2012, 06:14 AM

I would have thought making him sit through about 6 hours of youtube videos would put him off even more.

FETCHER. · 04-30-2012, 06:59 AM

Can I ask what age you are?

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ThePhanastasio Killed Laura Palmer Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Ashland, KY Posts: 1,679	The music used in films is often atmospheric, helping to convey a message and accentuating the visual medium so. The popular music on the charts, while occasionally containing undeniable emotion and messages, is for its primary purpose meant to appeal to a wide audience. As such, it's not going to resonate with most as deeply as some other sorts of music, but it's still going to affect most in the form of foot tapping, head bobbing, or some other similar acknowledgment. You say that you like the music from films, acknowledging that they seem to add something to the films. With that knowledge, I'm trying to find some songs that could potentially appeal to you. Atmospheric / Depressive Black Metal: Some of these have some screaming, but the ones selected are musically atmospheric and competent, and really do evoke strong emotions via the music itself. Woods of Desolation - Somehow... Midnight Odyssey - Never To Return Petrychor - Of Grandest Majesties Photophobia - If My World Ends Without You Heretoir - To Follow the Sun Shoegaze / Post-Rock / Dream Pop Several genres, just a few to represent their vibe My Bloody Valentine - Sometimes Ride - Seagull Seefeel - Spangle World's End Girlfriend - Garden In the Ceiling Mono - Moonlight Mazzy Star - Fade Into You Pale Saints - Shell Prog / Prog-ish Just a few of these. Porcupine Tree - Gravity Eyelids Dream Theater - As I Am Assorted Stuff Other things which came to mind David Lynch feat. Karen O - Pinky's Dream Tuxedomoon - The Cascade __________________ Phish: Studio Discography Reviewed 100 Albums I Heartily Recommend My last.fm It's a hand-me-down, the thoughts are broken Perhaps they're better left unsung

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Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	I would have thought making him sit through about 6 hours of youtube videos would put him off even more. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

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Ben Butler Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Rudheath Posts: 393	I've not come across many people that don't like music.

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aasia100 Groupie Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 1	If you don’t like music, please don’t call yourself a human..