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Old 05-23-2012, 04:13 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Michael Jackson just went from strength to strength after the 80's didn't he?
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Old 05-23-2012, 04:31 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Ditto many times! Talk about someone who deserves a lot of criticism in my opinion.

I never really liked much of his music even back in the day, but understood why at one long gone time some people heard some of his singles.

Still, in following the questions posed by the OP...

Sales/Hits - Starting with "Papa Oom Mow Mow" and the G. G. album Late '75

Good Music - He actually had good music? OK, A long time ago, there was a time when his music was respected by people who read publications like Bomp!, but that's certainly long gone for obvious reasons. His best side was actually a B-Side with the Glitter Band jamming up a stomp and saying "Hey!" In terms of the last song that was remembered beyond the moment the needle left the record well back in the day might be "I Love You Love Me Love," making it 6 once-respected (emphasis on ONCE) A-Sides verses a long line of "The Rest". Some music critics will only hear the music and rate it, but still...

I think he also made a Disco record as well...have to Wiki.

So, technically, from 1974 onward.

Can we "Close Thread" now? OK, maybe we'll find other examples, but certainly nothing will compare to this...

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Old 05-23-2012, 04:37 PM   #13 (permalink)
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How about... Billy Squire.

Dude had some monster hits out there and then did that weird video of him dancing around. I tried to find it and the name of it but to no avail. I remember that he disappeared after this and everbody stopped buying his records.

Poor guy, this is a cool song...


Billy Squier - My Kinda Lover - YouTube
Yeah, I remember this. Actually, the record in question was "Rock Me Tonight," with that seriously awful video. To think that he started off very promising with A Tale of the Tape back in '80, the making it big in The States with two FM Guitar Rock riffs ("Everybody Wants You" and "The Stroke"), and then that video in '84. Since then...
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Michael Jackson just went from strength to strength after the 80's didn't he?
"Black and White" was '91, so it may be safe to say that when people were listening to the rest of Dangerous was the time when it went all downhill.

After that, I think Jarvis Cocker said it best.
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Yeah, I remember this. Actually, the record in question was "Rock Me Tonight," with that seriously awful video. To think that he started off very promising with A Tale of the Tape back in '80, the making it big in The States with two FM Guitar Rock riffs ("Everybody Wants You" and "The Stroke"), and then that video in '84. Since then...
That was it. I think that song was part of the XANADU soundtrack that godawful Olivia Newton John movie. She tanked right along with Mr Squier after that one. Billy Squier wasnt half bad in his heyday.
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Old 05-23-2012, 05:22 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I hate to comment in a thread like this on a band I seriously love, but for me The Kinks had a very musically troubled time after Lola. At least they still had some great songs, if not as consistent.

Sales - '71-76 When they moved to RCA/the Munswell Hillbillies album to Soap Opera (although the last was a light rebound)/the lack of any serious chart positions in The US that kept them a strong concert draw proven by their return to Stateside stages in '69. The album that kept their name alive in cult music circles in the States was excellent Kink Kronicles collection.

Good Music - The RCA era: In my opinion, the quality dropped especially with Preservation Act 2. They bounced back a little on the albums after that, but you know what I mean.

Onto the Arista era, there was a comeback in the US chart albums chart and the occasional return to form. Sadly, sales-wise they slumped with the great "Do It Again" single in '84.

Sales and Good Music Part 2: Then, it was onto MCA (Remember Think Visual? UK Jive was OK, but Think Visual had a thrashing from critics) and then Columbia with some flashes of a return to form that were out-weighed by not so inspiring moments from what I heard. They still performed great live shows, though.

At least the To the Bone live set was a nice way to stop. The continuous collections of their classics will always keep their name alive, thankfully.

Here's a simple one: Kiss. "Gods of Thunder" in the 70's who even made a killed Disco record in "I Was Made for Loving You." Through that decade, they were crass, dumb, and fun. I grew up with their music.

Then the Limo turned into a Pumpkin with Unmasked in 1980. I like the fact that they tried to go the concept/Serious Music route with (Music From) The Elder - and "I" really is a highlight - and finished up their first Make Up era with Creatures of the Night, but when they took off the makeup...

Yeah, 1983's "Lick It Up" was the grand announcement that they were back, and their records will always chart, but they are not really as remembered. The 80's was an over-produced era filled with calculated moves and The Early 90's continued the slide.

While the latest album had the make-up, it's basically down to the live shows to hear those 70's songs in their natural element. live, loud, with a lot of theatrics.
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Although I seriously like a lot of what Bolan recorded, there was certainly a time from Late '73-Mid '76 where it seriously was a bumpy ride. Zinc Alloy was the start of the troubled albums and singles-wise, you would hear something decent but not classic like "Light of Love" and then get some not-so-good things like The T. Rex Disco Party's "Dreamy Lady." From concepts to adding on singers and dealing with music styles that were an all-fit, it was a sad time. Trying to keep the celebrity going when we knew that something was seriously missing )and yes, there was the weight at that time) and signing up to Casablanca in The US for a failed attempt to break into it (The ill-fated Light of Love collection) were the tip of the melting iceberg.

His music returned to form by the time of his passing, though, and I'm sure that it will make some wonder if he would have at least had a major UK comeback if he was still with us. Maybe not reaching T. Rex mania, but certainly having a solid group of listeners, of course. Plus, the trim for the Punk era look at least ended his story with a hint of promise. This is not the topic to really think about it, but it's just a thought.
wow you know your **** ..man when he dropped zinc alloy and started doing all this experimental music it seemed like he was trying to hard to crack the us charts and it failed miserably :/. gloria had a huge impact on his music i'm sure she's behind him addidng other people's vocals on his records and all the back up singing..i wonder how stressed out the poor guy was :/ ..he looked good before he died though dude dropped so much weight and had his own show and looked like he was coming back but then booom! he died :/

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Michael Jackson just went from strength to strength after the 80's didn't he?
After Dangerous it was over for michael jackson smh

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I hate to comment in a thread like this on a band I seriously love, but for me The Kinks had a very musically troubled time after Lola. At least they still had some great songs, if not as consistent.

Sales - '71-76 When they moved to RCA/the Munswell Hillbillies album to Soap Opera (although the last was a light rebound)/the lack of any serious chart positions in The US that kept them a strong concert draw proven by their return to Stateside stages in '69. The album that kept their name alive in cult music circles in the States was excellent Kink Kronicles collection.

Good Music - The RCA era: In my opinion, the quality dropped especially with Preservation Act 2. They bounced back a little on the albums after that, but you know what I mean.

Onto the Arista era, there was a comeback in the US chart albums chart and the occasional return to form. Sadly, sales-wise they slumped with the great "Do It Again" single in '84.

Sales and Good Music Part 2: Then, it was onto MCA (Remember Think Visual? UK Jive was OK, but Think Visual had a thrashing from critics) and then Columbia with some flashes of a return to form that were out-weighed by not so inspiring moments from what I heard. They still performed great live shows, though.

At least the To the Bone live set was a nice way to stop. The continuous collections of their classics will always keep their name alive, thankfully.
As far as good music goes the kinks were straight until after " Everybody's in Show-Biz"..i mean that album had "Supersonic Rocket Ship/Celluoid Heroes" some of their best work ever. Once they stepped into the theatrical realm that's when they hit rock bottom lol..Don't get me wrong i think it was a fascinating time in their career (soap opera..sleepwalker) the music wasnt great by any means it so horrid.
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and suggest that being dead might be a severe hindrance to ones career, meaning a lot of musicians qualify.
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and suggest that being dead might be a severe hindrance to ones career, meaning a lot of musicians qualify.
Ah, not necessarily. Many artistes continued to chart, and even thrived, after their death.

Cue Simpsons quote..............
Lisa: "But I want to buy that Bleeding Gums Murphy album now that he's dead" (not exact quote, but hey)

Comic Book Guy (WHY was he selling ALBUMS??): "He's dead? Oh in that case..." (Takes the album down, marks the price up by 100 percent)...

So in many weird ways, dying could be the smartest move of a musician's career...
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Ah, not necessarily. Many artistes continued to chart, and even thrived, after their death.

Cue Simpsons quote..............
Lisa: "But I want to buy that Bleeding Gums Murphy album now that he's dead" (not exact quote, but hey)

Comic Book Guy (WHY was he selling ALBUMS??): "He's dead? Oh in that case..." (Takes the album down, marks the price up by 100 percent)...

So in many weird ways, dying could be the smartest move of a musician's career...
Not to sound ****ed up but dying actually helped John Lennon/Elvis/MJ career wise ..but there's people that died early that had so much more music that could've been great Kurt Cobain(Nirvana)...Ian Curtis (Joy Division)..Otis Redding.
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