What do you think of this generation of music?
 

What do you think of the music that is performed and sung today compared to the 50's, 60's, 70's etc.. I personally cannot stand it. I am 16 years old, and I cannot stand the music that all my friends/classmates listen to. Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Lil Wayne, Wocka Flocka, etc.. it's ****!! I mean ALMOST every rap song nowadays is either about gettin money, sex, ****ing bitches, smoking blunts, and partying. What happened to rap like 2pac that had beautiful poetry and sings songs about life? What happened to Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Bob Dylan, Aerosmith? Why does the younger generation of people listen to the that nonsense crap? Post your opinions.

There is good and bad now just like there always has been. The best selling album of the 90s was by Shania Twain for fuck's sake.

I the state of music is the best its ever been and will continue to be that way. You just have to look.

The reason Lady GaGa and Katy Perry are so popular is that a lot of people just want a good beat and something easy to dance/sing to in the car. They don't want to analyze or think too hard about what they're listening to, and that's perfectly fine. And for the record, a lot of pop music throughout the ages has been about sex, or drinking, or drugs, or whatever... it just wasn't as blatant. The Beatles wrote an ode to LSD, remember?

Regardless, there's plenty of great non-pop music out there right now. You just have to know where to look.

There's still good music out there dude..it just wont EVER be played on the radio. The people that keep feeding the radio money are too brain dead to listen to any music that takes a thought process to make.

Why do you let such statics bother you?

Led Zeppelin split up after their drummer Bonzo died. Page and Plant renunited but left out John Paul John in their plans - that pissed him off a bit when he saw them playing on the telly with another bass player playing his bass lines. Pink Floyd split in two, Bob Geldoff got them back together but it was a one off, Syd Barrett & Nick Mason sadly passed away. Bob Dylan has a son now, Jakob, who plays music as well. Aerosmith, Steve Tyler became a judge on America Idol and does commercials etc.

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You sure about that?

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Its as good now as ever really. I think pop is at it's low point for sure, but there's so much good indie music and non-mainstream stuff out there, and easy to access too. Even some popular alternative artists that get heavy play on the radio are awesome, such as The Mars Volta, Mastodon and Tool just off the top of my head.

Ick, Hootie & the Blowfish! Ahhhh, stop reminding me of their existence.

This.

I miss those days :(

Those bands made it by constant touring.

If you want the same thing now I suggest you quit moaning there's no good music, turn off your radio and get your ass down to a live venue and support what's playing there.

Yeah, local scenes too actually, didn't even cross my mind, but there's plenty of good local music everywhere. Especially the hardcore scenes around urban areas if you're into that.

You miss Winger and Hootie & the Blowfish?

I don't think he's aware of that.

Stop listening to the radio. Sit at your computer and look up bands for several hours. There is TONS AND TONS of good music today.

Personally, due to the sheer abundance of new music and range of sub genres upon sub genres, in today's music climate, there is something for everyone and thus I believe the present day is the best generation for music.
There's new innovative artists emerging all the time in every field of music, much more so than any other music period.

There's good and bad in every generation of music. If we're talking about the Top 40, I don't think it holds a candle to the stuff made 30 years ago or even 20 years ago. But there's room for everybody.

Actually, the latest Winger aint too bad. It's still got Reb, and he smokes through out.

I think you mean, what happened to their influence!? It's there dude, just gotta look away from the mainstream, like everyone has been saying, it's out there, just gotta know where to look and you most certainly will not hear it on the radio...

I quite like it! Almost all of the music I have in my collection is from 2000+, with a few from the 90s.

Were you alive in the 60s?

If so then you must surely be able to remember that the charts were filled with a lot of "bad" music then too. If not then surely you have been able to pick and choose which music of this time you wanted to listen to and didn't have to endure exposure to all the stuff you don't like.

Theres always music you will like and always music that you wont.

I came across wrong, I know there are tons of excellent music being put out in the industry today. But it doesn't 'get' out there. What I'm talking about is the mainstream stuff, that all the teenagers and young kids listen to. I cannot stand it, I mean every girl in my high school listens to that pop **** and a lot of guys I know try to act like ballin thugs cause they listen to Lil Wayne. I hate how it influences them.

the 80's and 90's were some of the worst ****ing music in ****ing history. What in the name of Christ are you remembering? The 15 bands worth a damn?

They can't help it. They're 'NORMALS'!!! They are quietly being trained NOT to think for themselves...:laughing:

i love it TBO

The 80's started out pretty strong with the tail end of that new music explosion that started in the mid-70's but it got co-opted and petered out pretty quickly. The 90's was definitely the nadir for me. I didn't like hair metal, I didn't like grunge and I especially didn't like any of that adult contemporary Dave Matthews Counting Crows Hootie stuff that all my co-workers were into. I recall listening to a lot of Ministry, Japanese Garage bands and Tzadik releases in those days. God bless John Zorn...

1981 - 1983 > all other times in music.

In my opinions, at least.

Some people are going to be influenced by whatever's popular. When I was in high school, a lot of the dudes had bangs and wore skinny jeans and the girls had random Taking Back Sunday lyrics scribbled all over their notebooks. Even the jocks and cheerleaders. The 60's were the same... most of the kids in high school had really long hair and wore bell-bottoms. The only difference is that they had a huge cultural movement backing them up.

Incidentally, that's what my 16 year old brother wears today. He's countercultural.

There was PLENTY of good metal and rock bands that were not grunge or hair metal (Aka: Glam Metal) and they never made it big, it was getting really large in Europe when metal was at its all time low here and the European festival culture is still keeping it alive today and I don't mean the nu-metal/alternative metal stuff, I am talking traditional, even rock... Hell, they are here in the U.S. but it just isn't growing..

One of the things I loved about the Cult



They existed at a time where they should not have been popular, they weren't grunge or hair metal or all glam with a pretty bass player, they were mature for their time and appealed towards a wider and more mature audience and just played kick ass rock music and it worked well for them.. It's the same with other bands like Collective Soul, Dada and Brother Cane, Stone Roses, all bands that should have done much better, but didn't due to the exploding grunge scene and all the rap metal stuff (Korn, Limp Bizkit, etc..) that followed but their music is going to go down in history..

There was even stuff at the time that never made it on the radio at all that I consider to be some of the greatest music of all time.. Again, it was out of the ordinary, which is why it never made it big, Trans-Siberian Orchestra is a prime example.. They are not very mainstream, probably too fringe for some people, they mix classical music and holiday and give their music a very progressive/symphonic metal sound, their concerts are huge, they sell tons of tickets and you rarely ever hear about them, but they will indeed go down in history, most of the fans know the band members as Savatage, who existed at around the same time that Metallica did and went on to make even better music in the 90's (imo) but shifted into TSO, they were very much similar in a lot of ways and only their fan base usually knows who they are..

Imagine how that is today with the great tool that is the internet and people downloading music through torrents.. It is much different today, if it is out of the ordinary by any means, then you won't get any recognition for your work whatsoever, not that people will hear about it, they will and you will certainly grow, Nightwish is an example of this and I could name 100's of other metal and rock bands, it's almost as if they are a indie-mainstream band because they are so huge, yet you will never hear a single one of their songs on the radio (why?) because it is out of the ordinary, you make it by selling merchandise and touring as much as you can and putting out your music as much as you can..

Although grranted Nightwish makes it to the charts in their own country but don't even come close in the United States.. It is currently the same with most metal bands in Europe..

I present power metal bands! (the flag wavers of Metal) here is Blind Guardian, a late 80's band and Kamelot, a mid 90's band and Freedom Call (a 00's band).. Neither band is mainstream..

All three bands are still popping out albums every other year and growing as they do..







Anyways, I better end this rant, I just wanted to get a point across..

:laughing: when were you defrosted?

Just so we're clear, you're saying '81 to '83 was better than '45 to '80?

Oy, reading through this thread has given me such a headache.

There's plenty of great music out there right now. Just because you're not aware of it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Why it's so difficult for some people to understand that the synergy of good and bad music has existed for literally decades is beyond me. And radio-friendly, synthetic, marketed crap has existed since the dawning of the music industry.

And if it's really so impossible for you to comprehend that *GASP* mainstream audiences like mainstream music, then you're just delusional.

When you said:
Where you saying it as an avid fan of Shania Twain or out of disconcertion that her album sold so well? I thouhgt it was the latter so I was like don't worry about it.

Just so we're clear, are you saying '45 to '80 was better that '77 to '44?

Yeah I don't think I would've been much for Power Metal back in the 90's either. BUT THAT'S JUST ME! My 90's experience was all about traveling, playing Quake and collecting Merzbow cd's. :o:

Mad props to my Metal brothers though - you guys are always SERIOUS music fans who really know your stuff. I really respect that.

I actually saw Blind Guardian and Holy Grail live in Albuquerque last december. Werent too bad. Not my type of music though.

I miss the fact that a lot of great metal and rock bands were in their prime. Whatever you were into, from hair metal to thrash, there was loads to choose from, there always seemed to be someone touring and the scene just seemed so much more accessible than it is now.

Take the nostalgia filter off. There was just as much crap back in the day as there is now. Finding the good stuff meant having to dig a little deeper as it always has. The main difference is that most of the crap doesn't get replayed forward.

Plus teenagers complaining about hating their own generation of music and trying to kiss up to Led Zep, The Stones and Pink Floyd sounds like they're trying to impress their grandparents. Rock music is about rebellion - grow the guts to go out there and find your own sound. I absolutely guarantee it exists and is out there, you just need to work a little to find it.

Neither. I was just pointing out that horrible music was just as capable of being popular in the 90s just as it is now.

How is that any different from now? There's a massive variety of music out there today, including styles that didn't even exist in the 80s and 90s, and there are always lots of people touring. I'm forever in the situation of having less time and money available than there are good shows to see.