Doc.DGAF

You obviously don't know s**t about me. I'm not old enough for vinyl, Journey or Bad Company.

I won't deny that Nirvana got their play when they came out, but Moley said it well, they wouldn't get half the attention they do if he hadn't of blown his brains out. My lil' sister can sing like Cobain and I could play a guitar better than that crap with a frying pan. Hell, look at Pearl Jam or Alice In Chains or Soundgarden, they all earned massive props (without suicidal front men) just going on real talent.

Woo! Such controversy just stirs my nads!

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littleknowitall

you know what i think was garbage.....nirvana!! i've never been that into them, i always thought they we're a bit over hyped as a grunge band and although it's not right to say they were given such fame because cobain snuffed it, i think it did contribute quite alot to the idolism he has from so many people today, not all, only the ignorant. i don't think they'd have been so over hyped if it wasn't for cobains death.

heart shaped box is a decent song, that's all i have to say.

boo boo

But like i said before, they were ALREADY a very hyped band in 1991, which was (as i recall) 3 years prior to Cobains death, and of course they were still extremely popular up until when Cobain died... So weither or not they could have remained popular if Cobain was still alive or not is merely a matter of speculation... You dont go by speculation and then say crap like "and they only got famous because of this and that" because it only indicates that you are going by your personal bias and that you're only pretending to know what you are talking about.

I know Cobain bashers would like to think that Nevermind only sold millions of copies in it's first week of release because Cobain killed himself, but it dosent work that way, and it dosent take too much common sense to know that either.

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boo boo

Alice In Chains didn't have a suicidal frontman?

And why do you have to bring guitar playing into this?.... Everybody who bashes' Nirvana has to bring up the guitar playing every time, like that really matters... You can play better than him you say?... I can too, but i don't brag about it, and it also dosent make me a better songwriter, or a good songwriter, and i assure you that you cannot play better than Cobain with a frying pan, which is a lame pun to make. Cobain was a good songwriter and he put his limited skills on guitar to good use... Yes Cobain was an average player, no one is comparing him to Steve Vai, what he played suited what he wrote.

Who's next?.... Lou Reed?... Bob Dylan?... John Lennon?...Elvis?...All we're average guitar players, they must suck.

Again i need to ask, how do you define real talent?

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TrampInaTux

If you can pick up a guitar, knock out a tune that sounds good then you have a talent. A small talent, but a talent nonetheless. If you can pick up a guitar, knock out a tune and sell a million records then you have a big talent. A very big talent indeed. Doc when was the last time you brought out an album that sold thousands (maybe millions) worldwide?

boo boo

You make a good point.

But it's only going to inspire people to bring up a bunch of bubblegum pop singers like Britney Spears and The Spice Girls.

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TrampInaTux

You to make a good point. I withdraw the last comment. But Nirvana are still talented, although how talented they were is detable. I like them though, so there's no changing my mind.

boo boo

Talent itself is debatable, which is why i wish this guy would answer my question already.

I know people who really judge talent on technical ability alone, and their idea of good lyrics are words that rhyme and making use of words like "hell", "fire", "release" and "confusion" on every song.

To me songwriting comes first, if Nirvana weren't good songwriters, no one would waste their time with them, because they weren't great musicians by the technical sense of the word... Lyrics obviously count, though they are not essential, as in the case for AC/DC... Nirvana just had great chemistry for a band, to me chemistry, subtlety, melody, rhythm and everything else is more important than how complex the melodies are or what time pattern a beat is in...

To me, feeling, emotion, energy... These things may be completely subjective but to me they mean a lot more than chops.... And that is why Pavement are a better band than Racer X.

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Kripes

Most annoying...this new band called Facktion that my little brother now likes.

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Nirvana did what the record companies needed a band to do, which was make music popular again. Now, I honestly think Nirvana sucks, but without them music may not have survived. Although I'm sure another band would have easily replaced them.

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